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How can I get rid of these root stumps?
« on: July 16, 2017, 09:00:44 PM »
New house is getting a front yard makeover. First to go were some overgrown Texas sage bushes. I've never liked them and their location meant I wouldn't even tolerate them.

I'm left with two stumps that are similar size, about 9 inches around and a foot tall. They're too well established for me to dig them out unless I want to do a lot of digging, which I don't. I could get a truck to pull them out but then I've got a huge hole and a mess.

The idea currently floating around my head is to drill a lot of big holes in them, add a little lighter fluid, strike a match and make some s'mores. I let them burn/smolder down to the ground and cover them up with dirt and rock.

I'm open to alternatives but that seems the easiest and funnest way to do this.

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Re: How can I get rid of these root stumps?
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2017, 10:13:29 PM »
Cut the stumps and sink in a bunch of copper nails?

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Re: How can I get rid of these root stumps?
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2017, 05:00:47 AM »
I'd cut them off as close to the ground as you can first.  Burning them may be very disappointing depending on how much moisture they have.  And even if dead, the ones here in Michigan are moist at and below ground level. Drilling holes will hasten whatever option you choose.  But whether you burn it out, let it rot, or have it ground up (my personal choice if you are in a hurry, otherwise let it rot), you are going to have a depression there that will need filled in if you want the yard level.

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Re: How can I get rid of these root stumps?
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2017, 05:03:37 AM »
Cut the stumps and sink in a bunch of copper nails?

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What's this do?  Hasten decomposition?  Do they have to be fresh stumps or does it work on old ones also?  I've never heard of this and have several stumps to get rid of.

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Re: How can I get rid of these root stumps?
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2017, 05:06:48 AM »
  Rent or hire a stump grinder machine.

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Re: How can I get rid of these root stumps?
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2017, 05:46:06 AM »
About 37 chops from an axe should get rid of it.

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Re: How can I get rid of these root stumps?
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2017, 08:33:06 AM »
Dig them out like I did.
Sure, it's hard work but it's worth it.

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Re: How can I get rid of these root stumps?
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2017, 09:26:51 AM »
Cut it as low to the ground as possible.
Drill big/deep holes into what's left
Fill the holes with potassium nitrate http://www.dudadiesel.com/choose_item.php?id=5pn&gclid=Cj0KEQjwwLHLBRDEq9DQxK2I_p8BEiQA3UDVDiIyMsqVQ5L5T15zmN3tISvU7fpEpnGmoQ9A37AwdLoaAoP38P8HAQ
Bury/mound dirt around it
Water it
Wait a year, it will be mashable/spongy

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Re: How can I get rid of these root stumps?
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2017, 09:41:18 AM »
The copper nails poison the tree remains. Many times when trees are cut down like that, they resprout. If you are not able to grind them, dig them out, killing them at least doesn't make you have a really thick hedge

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Re: How can I get rid of these root stumps?
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2017, 12:24:59 PM »
The copper nails poison the tree remains. Many times when trees are cut down like that, they resprout. If you are not able to grind them, dig them out, killing them at least doesn't make you have a really thick hedge

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I have even had fence posts grow into trees...nature is pretty tough.

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Re: How can I get rid of these root stumps?
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2017, 01:24:27 PM »
Locust fence posts dried and split for ten to fifteen years have been known to sprout and become trees.

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Re: How can I get rid of these root stumps?
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2017, 02:05:21 PM »
Darn them Locusts  >:(

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Re: How can I get rid of these root stumps?
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2017, 05:14:00 PM »
What ever you do you with likely have a "never ending hole". Voice of experience. FWIW cut them a little more drill hole and put some stump rot stuff in the holes. In a while, maybe a year, they will fall apart. Actually you may get lucky, if they don't start regrowing then you may be able to just pull them up in a year or so.

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Re: How can I get rid of these root stumps?
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2017, 04:47:41 PM »
Get something metal about the size of a five gallon bucket with no bottom. Maybe roll some sheet metal into a tube.
Put over the stump. Add charcoal and light. Might take some reloads. Maybe some real coal if you can get your hands on it.

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Re: How can I get rid of these root stumps?
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Re: How can I get rid of these root stumps?
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2017, 07:42:55 PM »
Really! A shovel and 10 minutes each and those are gone.

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Re: How can I get rid of these root stumps?
« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2017, 07:57:49 PM »
Maybe, if it is a shallow rooted plant.  I had to dig out 2 holly bushes and a big bush with deep roots.  It took me well over an hour to dig out.

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Re: How can I get rid of these root stumps?
« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2017, 08:08:52 PM »
In the back yard I used an axe to cut into the stump a bit and then for a few years turned that area into a compost heap.  Over the year(s) the stump slowly got punky to the point that the stuff above ground was easy to remove.   Now I am still keeping a compost heap over that area because the wood rotted out and now I have a good size dip in the yard.

I have heard one method for  stumps is to drill down holes into the stump, cover it over with dirt and plant tomatoes.

Due to the location I would just recommend a hatchet, and maybe hit it with a power washer to dig down a bit deeper.  Another thing to dump on the stump is nitrogen to burn out the roots. 

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Re: How can I get rid of these root stumps?
« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2017, 08:39:13 AM »
These are not shallow rooted at all. They deep and big. The ground out here tends to promote big deep tap roots.

I'm tired of looking at them so over the weekend I may pick up an axe/hatched and see how far I can chop them down. Nitrogen to burn them might be done as well.

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Re: How can I get rid of these root stumps?
« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2017, 10:00:04 AM »
These are not shallow rooted at all. They deep and big. The ground out here tends to promote big deep tap roots.

I'm tired of looking at them so over the weekend I may pick up an axe/hatched and see how far I can chop them down. Nitrogen to burn them might be done as well.

Good cardio.....

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Re: How can I get rid of these root stumps?
« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2017, 02:23:12 PM »
Sawzall with a long carbide blade (because of the rocks).
Cut them just below flush. Spade bit and drill em full of holes (moisture catcher)
Cover with dirt and rocks. They'll rot out on their own in 4-5 years.

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Re: How can I get rid of these root stumps?
« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2017, 04:48:29 PM »
Sawzall with a long carbide blade (because of the rocks).
Cut them just below flush. Spade bit and drill em full of holes (moisture catcher)
Cover with dirt and rocks. They'll rot out on their own in 4-5 years.
Did that with my big Palo Verde tree this spring after it got blown over halfway.
Tree cutters took everything but the stump, they wanted way too much money to grind it.

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Re: How can I get rid of these root stumps?
« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2017, 05:21:06 PM »
I've done ours that way for years, when cutting firewood. Most times a hole doesn't get drilled, I just cut 2-3 grooves in the stump with the chainsaw. 4-5 years, and they are rotted out. Roots rot off the stump, and the stump residue comes loose and if it doesn't rot completely, it can be picked up.

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Re: How can I get rid of these root stumps?
« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2017, 08:38:04 PM »
I should have bought a sawsall as that's a good tool to have around... oh well. Bought a hatchet today. Time to get my cardio in this weekend :)

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Re: How can I get rid of these root stumps?
« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2017, 04:27:20 AM »
Looks like a front yard near cars so this isn't going to work but i've used the stump as a new brush burning spot. It will burn them down but be safe.

Dig around and try to get debris away. Chop at it.  Seems like it's never going to work till you get that last root. That looks like a small tree. You can chop it out.

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Re: How can I get rid of these root stumps?
« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2017, 08:55:45 AM »
I did chop it out. It's starting to come back so I'm thinking of leaving it but keeping it very short... roughly 1 - 1.5 feet tall. I do live in an HOA and having a little more green might appease them when they do their drive-by of the street.