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Re: Outfitting the Kitchen
« Reply #60 on: January 17, 2018, 08:21:21 PM »
We need to redo our kitchen since it is from 1986 and is showing its age. We are planing to add  some features to it so I can sit and cook or use a wheel chair if I follow my sister's path of decline. Not only will this be for me as I decline but we may have my in laws move in with us when they get older.   We bought a ranch house 15 minutes out side a small city for this reason. It also happens to be zoned agricultural.  8)

When we redo the kitchen I will be designing it to be used sitting or standing.
We will have drawers on all the lower cabinets. 
The cabinets below the stove top and sink will open up to the floor and slide into the side of the cabinets so I can pull a stool or chair  and work while seated. 
I will also have a siting height counter as part of the kitchen.  This may be a pull out island that slides under part of the counter when not in use.
A french door wall mounted oven slightly lower than average.  I may put the microwave above or below it.  I use the oven way more than the microwave but I don't think my husband will go for getting rid of it. 
A shallow depth french door fridge
The kitchen will not have a fixed island so I can use a wheel chair if needed. 
Pantry cabinets with pull out shelves will extend into the dining room so I will have plenty of easy to use storage. 

 

 

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Re: Outfitting the Kitchen
« Reply #61 on: January 18, 2018, 04:56:03 AM »
Rockler has some crazy options to make the kitchen more usable. I'll find one here...

http://www.rockler.com/rev-a-shelf-heavy-duty-mixer-lift

It's a question of how to make your tools more accessible. There are options to make life easier.
My 110# sister had one of these put in her kitchen when they redid it a couple of years ago.  She can move that heavy mixer with a touch of a finger now.  Works wonderful

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Re: Outfitting the Kitchen
« Reply #62 on: January 18, 2018, 08:37:59 AM »
Rockler has some crazy options to make the kitchen more usable. I'll find one here...

http://www.rockler.com/rev-a-shelf-heavy-duty-mixer-lift

It's a question of how to make your tools more accessible. There are options to make life easier.

Ooo, neat! We are buying a house this year, and we'll have enough money left over from the sale of our old place for some improvements...*runs off to plan dream kitchen*

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Re: Outfitting the Kitchen
« Reply #63 on: January 18, 2018, 01:27:22 PM »
I thought of one more thing as I was cleaning the kitchen today: the faucet. I never thought about it until we got to our new place and I really don't like it (if it wasn't an apartment I'd replace it today). It should be easy to turn on and off and adjust with a forearm, so when your hands are covered in ground beef from making meatballs you don't have to touch it. The one here has separate hot and cold handles, and they're small, which is really hard to use with messy hands. I'm also not a fan of the ones with the small, single handle on the side. I don't recommend the touch-sensitive ones either, my cousin has one and it's temperamental as hell (not to mention expensive). The ones with the large, single overhead handle work best for me, like this one (a larger handle would be better, but they're getting hard to find).

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Re: Outfitting the Kitchen
« Reply #64 on: January 18, 2018, 01:44:39 PM »
Ooo, neat! We are buying a house this year, and we'll have enough money left over from the sale of our old place for some improvements...*runs off to plan dream kitchen*

Be very careful. We started planning out a remod and stopped when I hit $10k in nothing but hardware from Rockler. Even with me buying rough lumber and making all the cabinets, installing a counter myself, and doing all the plumbing work myself it was the exotic hardware that really got pricey.

I thought of one more thing as I was cleaning the kitchen today: the faucet. I never thought about it until we got to our new place and I really don't like it (if it wasn't an apartment I'd replace it today). It should be easy to turn on and off and adjust with a forearm, so when your hands are covered in ground beef from making meatballs you don't have to touch it. The one here has separate hot and cold handles, and they're small, which is really hard to use with messy hands. I'm also not a fan of the ones with the small, single handle on the side. I don't recommend the touch-sensitive ones either, my cousin has one and it's temperamental as hell (not to mention expensive). The ones with the large, single overhead handle work best for me, like this one (a larger handle would be better, but they're getting hard to find).

No kidding. I have a hunk of junk Moen I've replaced the gaskets on a few times. I actually priced out putting in a restaurant style dish station. Big, all-stainless and a dishwasher with a 2 minute cycle. Not to mention the elephant trunk spray hose and industrial dispose-all. That got a quick veto from the Mrs.  :'(

I still want a big UNDERMOUNT sink with an spray faucet. Anything else is not ideal.

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Re: Outfitting the Kitchen
« Reply #65 on: January 18, 2018, 02:23:21 PM »
I still want a big UNDERMOUNT sink with an spray faucet. Anything else is not ideal.

Oh yeah, undermount for sure. I also prefer a single, large basin versus the more common 2-basin sink since I don't really do much hand washing, and even when I do I want more space to maneuver in the sink.

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Re: Outfitting the Kitchen
« Reply #66 on: April 22, 2018, 01:51:07 PM »
So... what types of things do want in the kitchen?

I have found these things particularly helpful:

1) Commercial-style spray faucet (Pro-style) like THIS
2) Pot filler over the stove
3) Gas or propane cooktop (great for power outages)
4) Very tall upper cabinets (to maximize storage)
5) Large pull-out drawers for pot storage (much prefer over regular cabinets with shelves)
6) Baking pan cabinet (fairly narrow but room enough for all those cookie sheets, pizza stones, etc)
7) Extended cabinet over the refrigerator (the full 2 foot depth) so that you can place your cook books toward the front with room for seldom-used items behind. This prevents the need for a step stool each time you use this space.
8) Large center island/work center (This has become a standard requirement for me... great for baking, especially) with nice overhead lighting.
9) Pull-out garbage pail (hidden inside a cabinet).
10) HUGE pantry

Other things we have tried, but don't really use much:

1) warming drawers... we just hardly ever use them. I suppose if we entertained more, it might be nice...
2) appliance garage. Don't like them. I prefer to have my extra appliances in the pantry area.

I'll think of more...

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Re: Outfitting the Kitchen
« Reply #67 on: April 22, 2018, 02:44:28 PM »
We recently remodeled the kitchen.  Two separate work spaces each with its own sink has worked out really well.  I'm also happy with my decision to have a wall of closets with shelves rather than expense cabinetry with more counter space or an eating area.

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Re: Outfitting the Kitchen
« Reply #68 on: April 22, 2018, 02:52:47 PM »
@Cyd: Not sure I understand... Your wall of closets, what do you use them for? Storage of food, pots/pans, appliances, china? Do you mean that you have more counter space because you opted for this wall? I intrigued by this idea...

Thought of one more thing I always want to have:

11) Commercial-style hood. I have had homes with the simple microwave oven/hood combo and also with a very decorative hood that wasn't really very functional. I have often made a particular recipe that calls for cognac and lighting it... those smaller hoods are a bit scary with that type of cooking. Never caught the kitchen on fire, but didn't make me happy...

We now have a 60" commercial-style hood with the actual fan unit placed up on the roof, so that the sound in the kitchen is minimal even when it is running on high. Really happy with that.

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Re: Outfitting the Kitchen
« Reply #69 on: April 22, 2018, 05:04:54 PM »
I love my pan rack.  All my sauce pans and stock pot (well, the 40-qt lives with the canning supplies in the basement) and cast iron pans hang above our heads and dry there.

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Re: Outfitting the Kitchen
« Reply #70 on: April 22, 2018, 10:20:29 PM »
@MS: That is one thing I haven't ever had in my kitchen -- a pan rack... will have to consider it next time around...

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Re: Outfitting the Kitchen
« Reply #71 on: April 23, 2018, 02:22:01 PM »
@Cyd: Not sure I understand... Your wall of closets, what do you use them for? Storage of food, pots/pans, appliances, china? Do you mean that you have more counter space because you opted for this wall? I intrigued by this idea...

I could have added a long countertop with cabinets above and below (expensive) but instead we framed it in as a closet (it's about 10 feet long and has 6 doors) with shelves.  I keep appliances, canning supplies, the pans that I don't use as often (the bottom shelf in each closet pulls out), spices, and lots of other stuff in it.  I like it better than an extra counter because the appliances don't get dusty or splattered.

Cyd

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Re: Outfitting the Kitchen
« Reply #72 on: April 23, 2018, 03:50:35 PM »
I like the idea of kitchen closets, but I like my counter space.  Maybe I won't have to choose?  Can I do both when I get a new kitchen?

do the doors swing open or accordion open?  Can you post pictures so we can see what you mean.
My uncle is a cabinetry maker, so my aunt's kitchen has lots of cool cabinets.  She has three levels that all open like this:   They are of varying widths, so some have room for #10 cans on both sides, and some just enough room for spices.
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Re: Outfitting the Kitchen
« Reply #73 on: April 23, 2018, 10:58:37 PM »
@Cyd: Not sure I understand... Your wall of closets, what do you use them for? Storage of food, pots/pans, appliances, china? Do you mean that you have more counter space because you opted for this wall? I intrigued by this idea...

I could have added a long countertop with cabinets above and below (expensive) but instead we framed it in as a closet (it's about 10 feet long and has 6 doors) with shelves.  I keep appliances, canning supplies, the pans that I don't use as often (the bottom shelf in each closet pulls out), spices, and lots of other stuff in it.  I like it better than an extra counter because the appliances don't get dusty or splattered.

Cyd

Ah, I get it. Sounds very nice... And your idea of two workspaces is very nice. I never used to need more than space for my own cooking, but my husband gets in there and does quite a bit of cooking now that he is retired, so I definitely see the need for more space now than in earlier years...

@MS: Those pull-outs look nice... I don't know if I would want them, since I tend to have most of the food storage in a big pantry and am used to that type of system... but it is very attractive...