Author Topic: Shutting down "Most" of My prepping program........De-Caching  (Read 1223 times)

Offline Sourdough

  • Fledgling Prepper
  • *
  • Posts: 6
  • Karma: 0
  • New TSP Forum member

Well........ I had a large caching and survival prepping program, and needing to shut it down. I guess I'll think of it as, "Reverse Prepping". Spent the last month retrieving caches, and hope to have them all in by late summer. Either the cached supplies were a lot lighter when they into the wilderness, or maybe my body was stronger many decades ago.

It felt so good and safe to be extensively prepared, and now there. is some fear......and a lot of apprehension.

Offline Mr. Bill

  • Like a hot cocoa mojito
  • Administrator
  • Forum Veteran
  • *******
  • Posts: 14407
  • Karma: 1859
  • Trained Attack Sheepdog/Troll hunter
    • Website Maintenance and Online Presence Management by Mr. Bill
Re: Shutting down "Most" of My prepping program........De-Caching
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2019, 08:09:44 PM »
Our prepping needs change with our circumstances and our age.  At 62, I'm thinking a lot about age stuff.  I've never even been in the Alaska wilderness, much less lived there.  But even here in just-outside-suburbia, I'm still having to re-think old plans and abandon never-completed projects, because they're just too much effort for not enough benefit.

Offline CharlesH

  • Survivalist Mentor
  • *****
  • Posts: 890
  • Karma: 21
  • Hope is a method...
Re: Shutting down "Most" of My prepping program........De-Caching
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2019, 08:31:30 PM »
Would you be willing to share the reasons you shut down your plan?  Everyone’s situation is different, and your reasons are your own.  But I’m sure you aren’t the first to take this step, and your reasons may prove instructive to others. 

Offline Sourdough

  • Fledgling Prepper
  • *
  • Posts: 6
  • Karma: 0
  • New TSP Forum member
Re: Shutting down "Most" of My prepping program........De-Caching
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2019, 10:43:47 PM »
Medical stuff. I had great eyesight till a few years ago. Now I have "Macula Degeneration" and at this point it is progressing fast. It might slow down, or speed up. But I have many-many-many caches deep in the wilderness, and I need to get them out this summer. I have already run out of places to but stuff, and there is still (3+) Three plus years of food out there. I leave the food till last to retrieve.

Offline Ken325

  • Survivalist Mentor
  • *****
  • Posts: 630
  • Karma: 49
  • "Winter is Coming"
Re: Shutting down "Most" of My prepping program........De-Caching
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2019, 02:44:15 AM »
I noticed a while back that a lot of preppers get into survivalism at middle age, and when you look at the average age of preppers you see a lot of people in their 50s and 60s.  Nothing wrong with that, but at some point you have to admit that your getting too old to live by yourself in the woods or to move around in heavy gear like a 20 year old soldior.  I am in my late 40s and I am already taking 4 pills a day.  My doctor is talking about putting me on a CPAP to help me sleep. Is there a survivalist model CPAP? I'm kidding, but it does show some of the problems we face as we get older. 

I still see a lot of risk out in the world.  We still have natural disasters, plagues, wars, and this country is becoming more divided every day.  The national debt is over 20 trillion, social security is still broke, and I still think we will have peak oil sometime in the next 20 years.  I think Trump has delayed the collapse, but we still have billionaires who control the media and now the internet who are pushing for a borderless world with global government.  20 out of 22 democrat presidential candidates support socialism, gun confiscation, open borders, and the green new deal.  So what is going to happen if Dems win and they try to ban guns, cattle ranching, energy production, and seize your property to pay for socialism?  What are we going to do if they try to seize our wages and property to pay reperations or provide free healthcare and college to millions of illegal immigrants swarming the border in giant caravans?  If they can flip Texas by shifting the demographics like they have in California, New Mexico and now Arizona then we will never have anouther competative election.  At that point the globalist and socialist take over and we become like Venezuela. 

So I still see the need to prep but I have to admit it is becoming more impractical each year.  I am moderating my plans.  I still have 6 months plus of stored food.  I still own all the guns and tools that I need, but I am focused more on bugging in than bugging out.  I am prepared for self defense, or guard duity, but not to patrol areas as part of a fire team. I try to ignore the fantasy stuff and pay attention to real world SHTF situations.  I think this is just about all that we can do.

Offline CharlesH

  • Survivalist Mentor
  • *****
  • Posts: 890
  • Karma: 21
  • Hope is a method...
Re: Shutting down "Most" of My prepping program........De-Caching
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2019, 06:14:25 AM »
I try to ignore the fantasy stuff and pay attention to real world SHTF situations.  I think this is just about all that we can do.
 
Agreed.  I’m at 55.  I moved the family into the country when I was 41.  Over the years I’ve created a nice little home.  I’m fairly secure from economic swings and the natural disasters common to my area.  My favorite rifle is an old single shot, bolt action .22 that keeps critters out of the garden and the hen house. The testosterone-fueled survival fantasies that seemed so cool and important to me 35 years ago are a thing of the past.

Offline Carver

  • Prepper
  • **
  • Posts: 68
  • Karma: 4
  • New TSP Forum member
Re: Shutting down "Most" of My prepping program........De-Caching
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2019, 08:08:49 AM »
Truth is, most disaster scenarios are hysterical hype. I'm reading a book where it goes into the decades long breakdown of society and only your membership in a survival group will ensure your survival. I don't buy it.
I prepare for ordinary life; storms, loss of electrical power for a day or two, local flooding. Distance from stores is a motivation to stock up but the expedient delivery from online shopping lessens the need for that.
I am of the attitude of preparing for when times get rough or if they don't.

Offline Sourdough

  • Fledgling Prepper
  • *
  • Posts: 6
  • Karma: 0
  • New TSP Forum member
Re: Shutting down "Most" of My prepping program........De-Caching
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2019, 08:48:43 AM »
It is an interesting spot that I find myself in now. The goal was survival. I started caching 65 years ago. I was granted legal emancipation at age 15, fifty years ago I moved to Alaska to become a professional big game hunting guide, and learn to stay alive in the Alaska wilderness.

Now as I near 73 y/o I have to accept that if the goal really was stay alive, then I have succeeded. Yet I feel like the rules have changed, and that I was not consulted before being thrust into a new (as yet) unknown life objective.

It is kind'a like winning, but the winning is disappointing. And yet not as disappointing as "failure" to stay alive would have been. I still have to finish the current game, while I can still backpack tons of tools, supplies and food out of the deeper wilderness. On the positive side it gives me motivation.......and a hell'ava lot of physical exercise.

Offline David in MN

  • Dedicated Contributor
  • ******
  • Posts: 1937
  • Karma: 151
Re: Shutting down "Most" of My prepping program........De-Caching
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2019, 04:10:16 PM »
Life changes. That's not inherently a bad thing or a sad thing. I'm past the point of getting in a boxing ring. I wish I still could but I'm a dad and I can't do it.

In my family we joke about the "shotgun pad" phenomenon. A young kid needs a big pad to eliminate recoil. A person in their prime finds no value as recoil in sport shooting is mild. Yet when people reach the golden years they go back to the padding.

It's all borrowed time. Even the great Usain Bolt will crumble to age. Yeah there's still a dragon in my belly that wants to box and sprint but most nice days I collect pine cones and fly kites with my daughter.

My dad gave me great advice: when you get old you can be the guy at the end of the bar crying about what he used to be able to do or the guy who set it all up when able and now lives off the the hard work of his younger self. Redefining yourself because of age is normal.

Offline Sourdough

  • Fledgling Prepper
  • *
  • Posts: 6
  • Karma: 0
  • New TSP Forum member
Re: Shutting down "Most" of My prepping program........De-Caching
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2019, 08:01:42 PM »
Most people don't live alone in the wilderness, and go to town for supplies once a year. I did not get to see other people get old, get to observe their problems and how they dealt with them or overcame them somehow.

I find myself going blind, and have zero clue about the options. And it could be slow or very fast. I have learned a lot about macula degeneration. Just not what they do with old blind people who have spent their life living in a shack in the wilderness. I have a gut sick feeling that I ain't going to enjoy it.

Offline Ken325

  • Survivalist Mentor
  • *****
  • Posts: 630
  • Karma: 49
  • "Winter is Coming"
Re: Shutting down "Most" of My prepping program........De-Caching
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2019, 03:05:35 PM »
I was diagnosed with relapsing remiting MS about 12 years ago.  I learned a long time ago not to read the horror stories on the web. Lots of stories about people who went to bed and woke up unable to walk or see.  The medications I am on cost $60,000/yr (insurance is covering most of this) and have a list of side effects a mile long, but they seem to be working.  I have had only had one flair up in the last 5 years.  I freaked out for a few years, then I just decided to live my life as normally as I can.  I am probably doing better now than when I was diagnosed. My white blood cell count is low making me more likely to get colds, and my allergies are terrible sometimes.  I get tired faster, and my ability to tolerate 100 degree heat is lower.  Other than that nothing has changed in 10 years. My advice is try not to freak out.  Don't make any big decisions after getting a bad medical diagnosis.  I bought a small townhouse in the city incase I needed to use mass transit to get to work.  Now I wish I had bought a place in the country.  So, be careful about making big decisions.

Having said all that we are all going to die some day.  You have to be prepared for that also.  I got a lot of comfort from my Christian faith after my diagnosis.

 

Offline Stwood

  • Survival Demonstrator
  • *******
  • Posts: 3553
  • Karma: 65
  • Wut wuz dat Olie?
Re: Shutting down "Most" of My prepping program........De-Caching
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2019, 03:53:32 PM »
.

Offline Lefty Red

  • Fledgling Prepper
  • *
  • Posts: 4
  • Karma: 0
  • New TSP Forum member
Re: Shutting down "Most" of My prepping program........De-Caching
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2019, 08:36:55 AM »
I completely understand. I have a broken ankle from wrestling with inmates, and it’s pretty much done for. Tendons and ligaments are torn or detached, will find out Thursday. And it looks like it’s going to be a burden until I die.

So, I adjusted my prepped for staying home until I can’t.  BOB is lightened, same for GHB. Looking at bicycles too.

All we can do if adjust and go on. I’m thankful for the broken ankle. It’s my “wake up call”, and it’s way better than a heart attack. I’m back to swimming and stretching and eating better. I’m not lifting weight like I was when I was younger. I’m not swimming the laps like I was ten years ago. But I am getting back to being healthy and happy.

Hope you adjust and move forward.

Lefty

Offline Smurf Hunter

  • Survival Veteran
  • ********
  • Posts: 7168
  • Karma: 333
Re: Shutting down "Most" of My prepping program........De-Caching
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2019, 09:42:48 AM »
You know the cliché "the more things change, the more they stay the same".  Something will fail, break, become obsolete, worthless.  I'm in my early 40s, but have had enough experience to know the best plan is to be nimble and adaptable.  Part of that is being financially liquid, and limiting obligations.  But that comes at a trade off too.

If one takes the classic self-sufficient path to the extreme, and has an extensive homestead with crops and livestock, that's a full-time labor commitment.  Yes, you are well defended against various collapse scenarios, but if your wife needs a life saving medical procedure and you must travel across the country and wait for 3 months, that homestead is in the way.

Unless you are literally a billionaire, you cannot optimize it all. The best you can do is learn from your mistakes and mistakes of others, and play better defense than in the past.  Everything else is speculation.

Cheers



Offline Carver

  • Prepper
  • **
  • Posts: 68
  • Karma: 4
  • New TSP Forum member
Re: Shutting down "Most" of My prepping program........De-Caching
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2019, 09:24:41 PM »
Once you can justify loading up on survival gear that was previously just “cool”, it’s easy to start and hard to stop.

Offline Stwood

  • Survival Demonstrator
  • *******
  • Posts: 3553
  • Karma: 65
  • Wut wuz dat Olie?
Re: Shutting down "Most" of My prepping program........De-Caching
« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2019, 09:51:41 AM »
Sourdough, have you got family that you can share your supplies with?
How about fellow preparers?

Offline allofthemonkeys

  • Survivalist Mentor
  • *****
  • Posts: 374
  • Karma: 13
    • Dutch Oven A Day
Re: Shutting down "Most" of My prepping program........De-Caching
« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2019, 12:35:49 AM »
My only 'cashe' is extra clothes and hygiene at my two main choices for a BOL, which is my parents and my in laws house.  That’s it. No buried arms and ammo to fight a war, just clean undies and soap.

Offline rustyknife

  • Dedicated Contributor
  • ******
  • Posts: 1052
  • Karma: 29
Re: Shutting down "Most" of My prepping program........De-Caching
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2019, 05:46:56 PM »
Sourdough hang in there brother, not all is lost. Remember the guy that trained "grasshopper"? He was blind. My wife has been blind about 15 years. What I found out was that all your other senses magnify. I'm pretty sure she can hear a fly fart at 100 yds, no kidding. There will be some adjustments to make for sure depending on how fast or slow this progresses. Stay in the fight but might have to go at it from a little different angle. You have friends here.

Offline Sourdough

  • Fledgling Prepper
  • *
  • Posts: 6
  • Karma: 0
  • New TSP Forum member
Re: Shutting down "Most" of My prepping program........De-Caching
« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2019, 01:29:11 PM »
Sourdough hang in there brother, not all is lost. Remember the guy that trained "grasshopper"? He was blind. My wife has been blind about 15 years. What I found out was that all your other senses magnify. I'm pretty sure she can hear a fly fart at 100 yds, no kidding. There will be some adjustments to make for sure depending on how fast or slow this progresses. Stay in the fight but might have to go at it from a little different angle. You have friends here.

Thanks...........

Offline Oakie

  • Prepper
  • **
  • Posts: 91
  • Karma: 4
Re: Shutting down "Most" of My prepping program........De-Caching
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2019, 02:49:53 PM »
It is an interesting spot that I find myself in now. The goal was survival. I started caching 65 years ago. I was granted legal emancipation at age 15, fifty years ago I moved to Alaska to become a professional big game hunting guide, and learn to stay alive in the Alaska wilderness.

Now as I near 73 y/o I have to accept that if the goal really was stay alive, then I have succeeded. Yet I feel like the rules have changed, and that I was not consulted before being thrust into a new (as yet) unknown life objective.

It is kind'a like winning, but the winning is disappointing. And yet not as disappointing as "failure" to stay alive would have been. I still have to finish the current game, while I can still backpack tons of tools, supplies and food out of the deeper wilderness. On the positive side it gives me motivation.......and a hell'ava lot of physical exercise.


We all find ourselves in 'interesting' situations as we age.  The lesson being I suppose, to live to enjoy today, while preparing  for future possibilities.  The rules DO change without warning.
You sound like you are making the best of a most difficult situation. I have a friend who is now legally blind and she manages by being very outgoing and positive. People come to her, she makes use of audio response tools like Lexis that you may not have access to. There are free programs in our state to help transition and equip individuals loosing their sight.
I don't know what will work for someone as independent as yourself. If you do not have close neighbors, now would be the time to relocate and introduce yourself. Community would be helpful if not absolutely necessary.
You seem to have 'stuff' to sell or barter and I'd bet great wisdom and knowledge to share as well.

Prayers that all your life learned skills have prepared you for this next, unexpected, chapter of life.