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Prepping is not Dead only Dormant with Trump in office.
« on: December 28, 2019, 08:32:41 AM »
Greetings Good Preppers

I like what Doc Bones said the other day about Prepping is not Dead only Dormant with Trump in office.

Nurse Amy and the Patriot Nurse in 2016 were worried about preppers closing up shop. 

I believe theses preppers know the danger is still out there and they are taking break from expensive active prepping while working on there skills and gardens.

Rob, Louisville, Ky.

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Re: Prepping is not Dead only Dormant with Trump in office.
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2019, 09:06:12 AM »
On the other hand there has been numerous articles about how prepping has gone mainstream and therefore attracts less media attention. I can think of a dozen prepping/survival podcasts that are no longer current but much of the material they covered was unique but now can be found on covers of magazines at the grocery store.
Nonetheless, there is definitely an attitude that has gone from panic to comfort. It's not over.

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Re: Prepping is not Dead only Dormant with Trump in office.
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2019, 04:09:50 PM »
Nope. Far from over. I know new preppers

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Re: Prepping is not Dead only Dormant with Trump in office.
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2020, 10:21:00 PM »
On the other hand there has been numerous articles about how prepping has gone mainstream and therefore attracts less media attention. I can think of a dozen prepping/survival podcasts that are no longer current but much of the material they covered was unique but now can be found on covers of magazines at the grocery store.
Nonetheless, there is definitely an attitude that has gone from panic to comfort. It's not over.
May I have a salt shaker to eat my hat. How rapidly change can happen, and I was wrong, prepping never made a dent into the mainstream as the present situation will confirm. Will things change? Have they? Most likely not.

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Re: Prepping is not Dead only Dormant with Trump in office.
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2020, 09:00:41 AM »
Well, you know. I would *think* that this trial run preceding the big one, would change a lot of minds. But I'm not going to hold my breath after visiting with one of my sons yesterday.  ::)

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Re: Prepping is not Dead only Dormant with Trump in office.
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2020, 09:13:37 AM »
I know that I eased off my prepping over the past 7 or so years.  But I have no idea what Trump in office has to do with anything. 

My biggest hurdle has been the wife.  She humored me some, but often would give me the eye roll when I would get more preps.  However, with the pandemic, she's now seeing that we need to do more prepping.  So there's a little bit of a silver lining.

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Re: Prepping is not Dead only Dormant with Trump in office.
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2020, 09:22:37 AM »
Mine has been kinda that way at times. 90% of the time she's in.
That other 10% I can receive that serious stink eye, kill look when she thinks I don't need to be spending coin on it. Or suggesting we need to be canning up that last sack of taters we bought.

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Re: Prepping is not Dead only Dormant with Trump in office.
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2020, 11:11:46 AM »
My wife has been compliant but like most people see it as a temporary situation and expects things to get back to normal. I don't preach on it, but things won't be the same ever again. And that could be because I am more immersed in the news.

What does Trump have to do with prepping? A lot. The Obama prepping bubble was popped with the Trump election. All those who were motivated to prep by the political scenario, fear of Obama/Hillary socialism, gun control threat had no other concept, reason, to prep.

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Re: Prepping is not Dead only Dormant with Trump in office.
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2020, 12:22:09 PM »
Well, a few things, if I may. . .

First off, In the past 20 years (<sigh>), there have been a LOT of false-alarms.  From Y2K, SARS (the first time), Earth Changes, Planetary Alignment, Planet X, the Mayan Calendar and many, many others to what we now face in CoViD, we have faced some nebulous threat, time and again.  In the ten years prior to that, it was a veritable minefield of potential threats from Massive Earthquakes to what I would suggest was a time when the threat of Insurrection was at a level only superceded by the late 1760's and 1770's (with notable exceptions during the Whiskey Rebellion and 1860's).  People get tired of hearing the bell ringing.

We have also faced one of the greatest onslaughts against those who prepare as part of their general lifestyle in the form of Doomsday Preppers.  While this series helped bring the topic to the forefront, they went out of their way to ridicule and sensationalize those who they featured.  I stopped watching after they practically butchered one of the most well-known proponents of preparedness as if he were an outright kook (granted, he may have been, but here's a guy who wrote articles and books for decades on sane preparedness topics).

When the average "prepper" is equated with a 450-lb fat guy on a Quadrunner bedecked body armor and helmet that are two sizes two small with his attack Yorkie beside him spouting about how he's going to repel multiple attackers from his "compound,"  or a self-described "Apex Predator" whose one attempt at a "Tough Guy," MMA-style fight lasts less time than his pre-fight pack of Twinkies, or a chick who claims her level of "super fitness" will make her the victor in any post-apocalyptic scenario (while simultaneously failing her National Guard basic entry fitness test) and how she'll simply "off" her cat with a judicious .22 behind Mister Fluffykins' ear prior to  bugging out. . . yeah, the image of prepperdom became a bit tarnished.

But, survivalists/preppers have always been.  They tend not to be those who gleefully jump on any bandwagon.  As a general rule, they are focused a bit more long-term than the average person on the street.

My wife and I are such people.  We jogged this way and that with our preps, over the years.  We've had some false starts and some minor modifications, but it's a lifestyle for us, not a fad.  We were just as ready 25 years ago as we are today with some rather significant changes.

What we have seen is that the Band-Wagoners do tend to come out of the woodwork when a threat is perceived, though.  This is evident usually right before an election (as we're seeing it add to the current frenzy, right now).

In all honesty, it is our opinion that the next four years will probably hearken in a whole new shift in the American Landscape.  I don't want to get political, here, but with some of the issues, and how they're being presented by the political actors, if Trump doesn't get elected this next cycle, it's gonna get a whole lot of Chinese Interesting.  Even if he does, imagine four years from now when there is no Donald Trump to run against the libs.    But, enough of that.

Preppers are and always will be.  Band-Wagoners will always jump on and off, depending upon the tune and tempo.  When this is all over, you'll have the same people doing the same things they've always done.

Every now and then, someone will gig the conductor on the behind and the band will play louder and faster and more people will hear the music, but it will get old and they'll go back to their Facewebs and Inter-Books and laugh at how silly they are.

Remain. Survive.  Live.

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Re: Prepping is not Dead only Dormant with Trump in office.
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2020, 01:46:59 PM »
When I was a kid we had a block warden whose job was to keep calm and lead everyone to safety in the event of a nuclear war. This was government-created prepping on a neighborhood level, they provided the shelter and blankets and emergency food. This wouldn't work for most experienced preppers but it might be a good idea for those who for one reason or another are restricted to doing it on a personal level. What comes to mind are people in dormitories, boarding houses, high-rise apartments, mobile parks.

After the block warden system was decommissioned I had the job of removing those food containers from one of the fallout shelters. They were painted flat army green in 18" high rectangular metal tins with a pry-off lid. I was shocked to see the contents; hard candy and crackers.

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Re: Prepping is not Dead only Dormant with Trump in office.
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2020, 06:05:08 PM »
+1 Professor

Since living in Germany in the 1980's, when the shopping hours were much more limited than I was accustomed to in the US and no grocery shopping available on the weekends except on "lange Samstag", I became somewhat of a prepper early on. After being caught without enough food in the cupboard and a weekend just beginning early on, I soon made sure to always have extra food and other things we needed on hand.

In the early 2000's, a friend introduced us to Rawles' book, which made my DH and me stop and think about the possibility of a bigger problem than no milk for the weekend. After that, I began looking into more canning, food storage, grinding my own wheat and gardening... DH worked on the security aspect :)

I was an early listener to Jack's podcast and got many good tips from him, particularly about gardening and the philosophy of making your homestead care for you instead of being a slave to it. We've never looked back. It has become a way of life for us, too. There are times when I don't really work on the garden or have much time to do the canning I'd like to do, but we are always stocked up, whether it is home-made or not.

We also are really anti-debt of any sort... haven't had a mortgage in many years and are very glad of that. I really think living and thinking that way is a good way to be ready to ride out most storms (or at least have a chance).

I know that women are in the minority on this forum and also in the prepping world and I've never been able to understand that. It really seemed natural for me to want to make sure my family was provided for in case of emergency (or even just daily living). I really don't understand why so many of the men here have such trouble with their wives not being on board... ah well.

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Re: Prepping is not Dead only Dormant with Trump in office.
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2020, 07:36:41 PM »
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I know that women are in the minority on this forum and also in the prepping world and I've never been able to understand that. It really seemed natural for me to want to make sure my family was provided for in case of emergency (or even just daily living). I really don't understand why so many of the men here have such trouble with their wives not being on board... ah well.
That is very easy to answer. #1 my wife would prefer to talk then to use a keyboard. #2 for her doing anything on a computer is business and is okay at work but not at home. #3 my wife's sphere of interest is the home and mine is the world. Involvement in a forum like this on a computer over the internet for her would be leaving the home.