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Offline ridge rover

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Cashless society now!
« on: March 21, 2020, 07:53:37 PM »
Not sure where to put this or if it's been properly addressed before but it's our current reality. My job takes me to various  hospitals. A coworker just informed me  they were not taking cash anymore, just cards. That info just blew me away!  Cash money is full of germs!  So I am thinking about New World
Order,  Mark of the Beast, Bible Prophecy, and all that. Hospitals would of course be the first to refuse cash. I have been told they are not the only ones to refuse cash. Shape of things to come or Apacolspe now?



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Re: Cashless society now!
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2020, 09:24:35 PM »
I forgot to mention it was the hospital cafeteria that refused  to take cash. My friend  did  tell me of another business that refused  green money. 

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Re: Cashless society now!
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2020, 09:30:38 PM »
Not accepting cash? Guess it is free then. Legal for all debts public and private.

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Re: Cashless society now!
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2020, 09:12:15 AM »
I bet it's just a concern of a virus transmission vehicle.

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Re: Cashless society now!
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2020, 09:22:21 AM »
Not accepting cash? Guess it is free then. Legal for all debts public and private.

https://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/currency_12772.htm

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Is it legal for a business in the United States to refuse cash as a form of payment?

Section 31 U.S.C. 5103, entitled "Legal tender," states: "United States coins and currency [including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks] are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues."

This statute means that all United States money as identified above is a valid and legal offer of payment for debts when tendered to a creditor. There is, however, no Federal statute mandating that a private business, a person, or an organization must accept currency or coins as payment for goods or services. Private businesses are free to develop their own policies on whether to accept cash unless there is a state law which says otherwise.

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Re: Cashless society now!
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2020, 10:01:22 AM »
I think hospitals are a particular risk of virus transmission, and the handling of cash also requires extra interactions like counting, securing, armored car service, etc.

Frankly, if you are thinking along these lines (eschatology), you should probably consider that it might be a reflection of your anxiety on the uncertainty of the times.  That anxiety is likely not helpful even if you happen to be correct about the end being nigh. 

I think it was Thessalonians that said something along the lines of "The day of the lord will come like a thief in the night."  It does not say it come like a thief in the night unless you are pious, or clever, or primed for it.

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Re: Cashless society now!
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2020, 11:54:24 AM »
This is another among the issues that have been considering discussing.

We know the government HATES the cash and barter economy.  They can't track it unless it's self-reported, hence, they can't tax it unless it self-reported.  They also can't always seize money if it's hidden away and not in a bank or investment.

I've been waiting for there to be reports of how someone, probably a cashier, bank teller, casino cage counter, etc., contracted the virus from cash or coin.  A big deal will be made about them checking random bills and coins and finding that some ridiculous amount show viable contamination. There will be some really cool graphics showing how the virus lives in the niches and marks or weave (or whatever) of the bill or coin.  Hell, I even expect them to say that the virus remains contagious and alive practically indefinitely due to the nature of the base material on the bill.

The answer is obvious: Ban cash sales for the duration (and then, of course, forget to repeal).  This would force everyone to use digital currency and bank accounts with the benefit of having every panic-mongering twit screaming to 911 when she sees a cash transaction.

Cash and coins become an Enemy of the State almost overnight.

I would have posted this, but we got rid of that whole Tin Foil Hat Brigade thing.

But, since someone else brought it up. . .

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Re: Cashless society now!
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2020, 02:33:04 PM »
I agree with a lot of what you said, but common sense would tell me that touching cash should have a much lower probability of containing an infectious disease than touching a PIN pad touched by 90% or more of the people in a location. In a day where most young people will use a credit or debit card for a $1.50 soda instead of using cash.
Now a lot of people are just using their phone with some instant pay App. I just don't trust having all that stuff on a cell phone. All it would take is dropping your phone and you could be screwed for days, a real nightmare if you happen to be traveling at the time.

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Re: Cashless society now!
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2020, 05:30:07 PM »

Disease is not the only risk in the world, a failed economy or tyranny of a cashless society are also just as serious. If you can’t work or live your life and have no money such that it leads to poverty or crime then your life is just as much at risk as it would be if there are germs out there

Other than that, I am not sure how underground bitcoin or black market bit coin would work

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Re: Cashless society now!
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2020, 10:46:11 PM »
Just food for thought. This virus scenario may be the gateway to a cashless society  at a future date. It  all seems so clear to me now. Just look at the masses in panic mode as we speak and  much of it is about toilet paper!  How would mark people who have recieved ed the antivirus vacination?  OK that statement is off base as far as this discussion goes but when cash is gone anything is possible............

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Re: Cashless society now!
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2020, 07:35:20 AM »
Disease is not the only risk in the world, a failed economy or tyranny of a cashless society are also just as serious. If you can’t work or live your life and have no money such that it leads to poverty or crime then your life is just as much at risk as it would be if there are germs out there

Other than that, I am not sure how underground bitcoin or black market bit coin would work

I agree, historically speaking, most major governmental and social entity failures were preceded by an economic collapse resulting in wars and a complete restructuring of the society.
The one saving grace for the individual has always been, and will always be, the cashless barter system. The direct commerce of labor between individuals is impossible to track or tax without the consent of the people involved as a whole.

As far as digital currencies go, I've never been one to trust them. Much like our hard currency, the 1's and 0's floating around the ethos is only as good as peoples trust in it. Lose the trust and the value evaporated overnight. They potentially do have some benefits over hard currencies, but it would only take one hacker to destroy it completely.

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Re: Cashless society now!
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2020, 09:33:27 PM »
A good comment was noted about perhaps being illegal to accept cash or coins. We have heard. Of someone paying a bill of with a zillion or so pennies. But now we are under an official  national emergency where some laws, etc are not  enforced and don't have to be.