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Canned goods in Cars?
« on: July 31, 2009, 08:01:30 PM »
I just picked up a few cans of Chunky soup and Campbells Select soups really cheap (1.50 and 1.25 ea) to keep in my car.  Just wondering....how well do canned goods keep in the trunk of a car?  I plan on leaving them there year round unless told otherwise.  I live in SE Michigan.  Seasonal temps range from 80's 90's in summer to the teens (sometimes lower) in winter.  I also park outdoors.  No heated garage for me!  Thanks!
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Re: Canned goods in Cars?
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2009, 09:37:13 PM »
I don't know, I have heard the heat causes that stuff to go bad in a hurry. I live in GA and drive a tractor trailer sometimes over the road, so I like the idea of keeping some canned goods in there, but my mom and my wife both told me they thought it wouldn't be good long at all in that kind of heat, so I threw that stuff away. I do keep a lot of stuff like cheese crackers, granola bars, stuff like that, and eat it quite regular with no problems. However it is usually rotated out within a month or two.

You might also want to look into MRE's if your just looking to store something in there long term. Again, I haven't done any research, but I'd say they keep much better than just regular canned goods when dealing with extreme temperatures, such as the heat from being kept in a car. But then again, they're not $1.25 each either.

Oh, also check on that dehydrated backpacker type food. Here wal mart is selling the meals (I believe for two) for around $5. Might be easier to find than MRE's.   

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Re: Canned goods in Cars?
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2009, 09:52:59 PM »
You might also want to look into MRE's if your just looking to store something in there long term. Again, I haven't done any research, but I'd say they keep much better than just regular canned goods when dealing with extreme temperatures, such as the heat from being kept in a car. But then again, they're not $1.25 each either.

Oh, also check on that dehydrated backpacker type food. Here wal mart is selling the meals (I believe for two) for around $5. Might be easier to find than MRE's.   
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If you want to store something that's going to be exposed to varying temperatures then go with something that's manufactured specifically for storage.  Storing at a stable low temp will allow you to store it longer, but if that's not possible maybe you can keep some on hand in your house too & then rotate & use the stuff that's stored in the car occasionally.

That way you've always got storage food on hand & it doesn't get wasted.
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Re: Canned goods in Cars?
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2009, 10:09:30 PM »
You would actually be supprised at how fast canned food can go bad when kept in high temperatures. While going to school, I lived in a ratty apartment with window air conditioners and no insulation. To save money, I only cooled the living room and bedroom. I actually had a can explode in my cupboard after exposure to a summers worth of heat in the mid to upper 90's. MRE's actually don't last long when exposed to high temperatures either. Probably 3-6 months in a car down here in Texas.

In the army, we got a bad lot of MRE's. Trust me, opening one will ruin your appetite for a long while. My gun (artillery) was lucky since we were the last ones to get our case dropped off. We were just about to crack them open when the call came over the radio "DO NOT OPEN THE MRE's!!!!!" About that time, we caught a whiff of extreme nastiness wafting over from another gun 150 meters away and the sound of people puking their guts out from the smell.

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Re: Canned goods in Cars?
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2009, 10:28:28 PM »
In the army, we got a bad lot of MRE's. Trust me, opening one will ruin your appetite for a long while. My gun (artillery) was lucky since we were the last ones to get our case dropped off. We were just about to crack them open when the call came over the radio "DO NOT OPEN THE MRE's!!!!!" About that time, we caught a whiff of extreme nastiness wafting over from another gun 150 meters away and the sound of people puking their guts out from the smell.
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The OP's question brought to mind a Mythbusters episode where they subjected canned biscuits to the heat of a summer day inside a car.  After watching that episode I would never consider storing cans in my car.

Anything stored in a car that's going to see hot summer temps should probably be considered short term storage.  Nothing's going to last long term in a car IMO, except for maybe commercially dehydrated type food.  I don't have much experience with that type, but I would think that even it wouldn't last as long.
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Re: Canned goods in Cars?
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2009, 11:01:45 PM »
I think Hershey's still makes their "Tropical" version of their famous chocolate bar that is very stable in high/extended heat environs.

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Re: Canned goods in Cars?
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2009, 01:13:10 PM »
Thanks for the info everyone.  I shared my idea with my fiance' and she told me to take them out.  She said they will go bad if kept in the trunk during the heat.  She thinks they might be ok in winter.  I already have some Ramen, instant oatmeal and nutrigrain bars in my trunk.  I ate a nutrigrain bar the other day and it was fine.  It was in there for about 3 months now.  Guess I better take the cans out when I get home from work today!
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Re: Canned goods in Cars?
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2009, 05:21:37 PM »
Thanks for the info everyone.  I shared my idea with my fiance' and she told me to take them out.  She said they will go bad if kept in the trunk during the heat.  She thinks they might be ok in winter.  I already have some Ramen, instant oatmeal and nutrigrain bars in my trunk.  I ate a nutrigrain bar the other day and it was fine.  It was in there for about 3 months now.  Guess I better take the cans out when I get home from work today!
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In the cooler weather supplementing calorie requirements with canned goods sounds like an excellent idea. 

I was stranded on I-40 one time for about 48 hrs. in a semi-truck during a winter blizzard.  The hwy. patrol closed the interstate & there were a whole lot of people in cars that basically had to sit on the hwy & watch the snow & ice get deeper.  I sat & slept comfortably in my big truck with the heater on, the fridge full & in no fear of running out of supplies.  It makes a difference, believe me.
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Re: Canned goods in Cars?
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2009, 04:14:59 PM »
I had some cans of chicken in my car for a summer, I opened one to see what it was like, it had melted into a glob and was really bad. I keep Millennium bars and Mainstay bars in my cars. They are not affected by heat and taste pretty good.


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Re: Canned goods in Cars?
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2009, 11:57:04 AM »
You also need to consider that the cans will freeze and explode in the winter if left in an unheated car for a couple of days, like over the weekend. I am speaking from experience here. It makes quite and interesting mess.

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Re: Canned goods in Cars?
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2009, 12:09:02 PM »
You also need to consider that the cans will freeze and explode in the winter if left in an unheated car for a couple of days, like over the weekend. I am speaking from experience here. It makes quite and interesting mess.

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Re: Canned goods in Cars?
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2009, 12:31:19 PM »
You could keep your canned goods inside a cooler. The cooler will keep a relatively constant temp whether in heat or cold, plus the cooler will act as a storage container that will your food/equipment dry. Another plus is the fact that a cooler in your vehicle will draw little to no attention, versus a few cases of canned food. I mean, only a nut would keep food in their car...right? :)

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Re: Canned goods in Cars?
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2009, 12:53:37 PM »
@ Timsuggs, thanks for the welcome. I did go on over there and let them know I was out here. Or out there, or where ever I am... ;D

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« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2009, 01:21:38 PM »
Whoops...where are my manners? Welcome aboard Centralil.  ;D
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Re: Canned goods in Cars?
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2009, 01:33:06 PM »
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Re: Canned goods in Cars?
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2009, 08:27:27 PM »
I keep Mainstay & Datrex bars in my truck toolbox along with extra water and a Katadyn Vario Filter. The "lifeboat" bars are impervious to cold & heat and have a 5-year shelf life. Also keep some cliff bars and other goodies but I know the lifeboats rations are good in a pinch. Pretty tasty too!

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Re: Canned goods in Cars?
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2009, 12:40:54 AM »
Ok, here's my input, and y'all can take it with as big of a grain of salt as needed.

Canned goods in the heat.. If it exploded, its not from the heat.

Canned goods are treated at high temperature to ensure that the contents are sterile similar to MREs. The only reason that they are going to actually go bad is that the canning process failed or that the can was somehow breached. Exploding cans are a direct indication of improper canning that led to a bacterial growth in the can that caused it to swell and explode (botulism anyone??).

From my experience at Burning Man for several years, storing canned goods in the trunk is the best place for them. Despite 120F in the shade during some days, the trunk was still relatively cool in comparison. This was the defacto storage spot for items that could not take the real heat that all the humans were suffering through.

MREs are the same way. Storage at higher temps will not actually spoil them (remember the food in the packages is STERILE), however it will seriously degrade the quality of what you dig out of the bag/pouch. I have eaten many MREs that are well beyond their date, they still made a turd and did not kill me in the process. Same goes for canned goods, I have opened and consumed items that were five years beyond their "date" regardless of storage protocol, and I'm still here.

Unless the can is damaged or swollen, it is most likely safe. Use the smell test and common sense first, it will tell you what's really going on..

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Re: Canned goods in Cars?
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2009, 08:15:19 AM »
Like Citizen Zero says, make your own decisions, but I was talking to another one of our truck drivers the other day parked across the road from where I was loading, and he happened to make the comment "Man, there's nothing like eating year old canned chicken!". I immediately thought of this thread and asked him if it had been in the truck for a year. He said it had been, and seeing as how he was commenting on facebook yesterday, I assume he is still alive and kicking.