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Title: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: Samson on April 22, 2011, 08:04:43 PM
So I've been putting together my document package and I've gotten to the "phone numbers" section, I have family, friends, police, hospital, red cross, poison control,doctor,pharmacy, isurance company.  Am I missing anything?  Are there any other ideas for the document package other than what Jack suggests??  Thanks
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: VeggieDog on April 22, 2011, 08:43:04 PM
How about phone numbers for local companies you'll need after a storm?  A company that could come out and put a tarp on your damaged roof, fix a broken window, remove a fallen tree? 
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: Samson on April 22, 2011, 08:53:16 PM
duly noted. Forgot the tree service,  thanks.  Any other suggestions?
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: bartsdad on April 23, 2011, 02:14:30 AM
Utility companies, plumber, tow truck company, cab service,church,lawyer,work, the kids school, banks ,credit card companies, hotels in a bug out town,a number for weather information and travel conditions.

Probably wouldn't hurt to put these into your cell phone memory as well.
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: bartsdad on April 24, 2011, 11:06:55 AM
Glass company (home and auto), sewer service, HVAC contractor, Vet,
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: Samson on April 24, 2011, 03:05:38 PM
you guys are great thanks!!
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: SteveandTracyinKY on May 04, 2011, 09:26:31 PM
Insurance companies as well as ID numbers and info (Auto and Medical). Family doctors, dentist, eyes doctors, ect. I also included towing companies for my hometown and every town between me and my bug out location. Also included was information for the city I work in and the area we frequent to hike.
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: Clybrad on May 06, 2011, 08:47:27 AM
dont forget the number for 911!  lol
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: bartsdad on May 06, 2011, 09:11:25 AM
A place to board your pets if a bugout means not going some place pet friendly
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: BerserkerPrime on May 09, 2011, 07:22:17 PM
A place to board your pets if a bugout means not going some place pet friendly

This is huge!  Have a back up as well.  We got turned away at our usual spot when we had to leave short notice. 

Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: mbarnatl on May 10, 2011, 04:21:15 PM
I always have another up to date phone book kept in my truck. But all of the important numbers are kept in my planner. But I keep the extra phone book just in case. Say a tornado went through your part of town and it hit the tree service you use on a regular basis. It will not do any good to call them since most of their equipement is damaged. Having a phone book available to call other tree services comes in handy and less stressfull.
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: Samson on May 15, 2011, 12:27:52 PM
I always have another up to date phone book kept in my truck. But all of the important numbers are kept in my planner. But I keep the extra phone book just in case. Say a tornado went through your part of town and it hit the tree service you use on a regular basis. It will not do any good to call them since most of their equipement is damaged. Having a phone book available to call other tree services comes in handy and less stressfull.
thats a great idea, why didnt i think of that. so simple. im definately going to do that. thanks
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: Cedar on May 16, 2011, 02:21:05 PM
Large and small animal vets. You will probably want one of each outside your district too.

Cedar
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: BerserkerPrime on June 02, 2011, 12:39:23 PM
I wrote the contact numbers to the plumbers that installed our system right on the air exchanger in the garage.  It's in the garage so who cares that it's written in marker. 
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: doublehelix on June 09, 2011, 01:58:57 PM
Be sure to get a AAA Travel Guide for your Region and the adjacent region.

It lists a lot of accommodations/restaurants/ etc. w/ location, ranking and phone numbers, plus pet friendly policies.

Good to have for Hurricane season bug outs.
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: doublehelix on June 09, 2011, 02:00:39 PM
7 digit emergency and non-emergency numbers for your local police, fire and ems.

9-1-1 doesn't always work in and after a disaster.

Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: crnaman on July 02, 2011, 06:34:11 AM
A lot of things are done on-line and the number and complexity of user id's and passwords can be daunting to remember for 10 or 20 sites.  I would suggest having the account numbers, user id and passwords for these sites available with a simple code (ie. add two digits or letters to each number or letter written down).  For example: my credit union requires an access number, user id, and a password, and an telephone password.  My credit card/ insurance company requires User ID, Password, and online password.  Right there that's 7 vital bits of information not including the specific credit card or bank account numbers.  If you are hurt and you are the one who does the banking in the family, this information could be very important to help your wife do the necessary business of the family.  And all she needs is how to work the simple code. 
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: DBI on July 06, 2011, 08:43:30 AM
I use an ammo can to keep deeds, birth certificates, ss numbers, auto titles, phone numbers, Wills, a small compact survival guide, and compact (laminated) maps. All of these are in labeled legal size envelopes which fit perfectly in the ammo can. Grab and go for the most necessary documents. Multiple ammo cans can be stacked neatly in the trunk of your car or strapped to a 4-wheeler.
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: idelphic on July 07, 2011, 09:30:24 AM
I still wonder about writing a 'custom' PIM - Personal Information Manager that would handle all of the document needs..  One that would allow ease of printing a open (no OpSec) document book.  Some sort of database, but stand alone and easy to use.  I've looked at trying to mold Excel and Access,.. but both require either MS Office or Open Office to use. Something more portable and would fit on a thumb drive.

I use an ammo can to keep deeds, birth certificates, ss numbers, auto titles, phone numbers, Wills, a small compact survival guide, and compact (laminated) maps. All of these are in labeled legal size envelopes which fit perfectly in the ammo can. Grab and go for the most necessary documents. Multiple ammo cans can be stacked neatly in the trunk of your car or strapped to a 4-wheeler.

Ammo cans are great...but I can see a minor issue with them.  Some documents might be in a binder,.. difficult to get the binder into the can unless you have a larger can.  NTM - A ammo can screams 'Steal me'.  I would think some sort of document bag would be easier - not to mention softer to 'toss' into the car when you have to roll.

To each his own,..  I've got a firesafe that only has paper in it,..  how easy is that to grab,..
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: pawonfire on October 02, 2011, 07:25:35 PM
To make your documents more portable on a thumb drive, look at portableapps.com.  You can install a version of open office on your thumb drive, and then open your documents on any windows machine.  You don't need to be an administrator, or install anything, so it works great at someone else's house or a library.  It is a bit slower that a normally installed version, a downside for daily use.

Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: Truik on October 02, 2011, 07:48:10 PM
I use an ammo can to keep deeds, birth certificates, ss numbers, auto titles, phone numbers, Wills, a small compact survival guide, and compact (laminated) maps. All of these are in labeled legal size envelopes which fit perfectly in the ammo can. Grab and go for the most necessary documents. Multiple ammo cans can be stacked neatly in the trunk of your car or strapped to a 4-wheeler.

Just want to mention that ammo cans are generally thought to be watertight but they aren't always. I would recommend taking the additional measure of sealing your items in a large ziploc freezer bag or other, similar seal-able container.

Rain, spills, even condensation can eventually ruin paper. Adding an air-tight plastic container inside an ammo can just helps add a little more protection, especially since these may be items that conceivably go for quite some time without being checked and the worst time to find out their integrity has been compromised is when you need them.

Just my two cents.

Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: Leonidas on October 25, 2011, 01:11:07 PM
I always have another up to date phone book kept in my truck. But all of the important numbers are kept in my planner. But I keep the extra phone book just in case. Say a tornado went through your part of town and it hit the tree service you use on a regular basis. It will not do any good to call them since most of their equipment is damaged. Having a phone book available to call other tree services comes in handy and less stressful.

Great Idea, Thank you

I use an ammo can to keep deeds, birth certificates, ss numbers, auto titles, phone numbers, Wills, a small compact survival guide, and compact (laminated) maps. All of these are in labelled legal size envelopes which fit perfectly in the ammo can. Grab and go for the most necessary documents. Multiple ammo cans can be stacked neatly in the trunk of your car or strapped to a 4-wheeler.

Great Idea, Thank you
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: bentwanderer on November 03, 2011, 02:10:26 PM
I don't have 1/10th of all that info at any of my residences....
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: Clybrad on November 03, 2011, 05:07:42 PM
I am a firefighter going through rookie school. We are talking about hazardous materials today and I thought of a good one. Chemtrec. This is a company that you can call if you see an overturned truck that may have a hazordous material.  Of course all they will be able to tell you is how fast to run in certain situations. But if you care to know it is 1800-424-9300.
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: PrepperJim on November 03, 2011, 05:25:25 PM
I am a firefighter going through rookie school. We are talking about hazardous materials today and I thought of a good one. Chemtrec. This is a company that you can call if you see an overturned truck that may have a hazordous material.  Of course all they will be able to tell you is how fast to run in certain situations. But if you care to know it is 1800-424-9300.

The other thing is to carry an Emergency Response Guide. You can look up the UN number (the four digit number in the middle of the diamond) and see what the characteristics are. I believe there are also iPhone and Blackberry apps for that, but always have an ERG in my bag. Of course, I am "in the business" so it is an occupational thing. I've never had to use it, but you never know!
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: bentwanderer on November 03, 2011, 06:32:56 PM
A place to board your pets if a bugout means not going some place pet friendly

I must have missed something. Why if i am preparing to be prepared; would i be going to  BOL that may or may not be pet friendly? Of course unless it is a tsunami, flood or i know i cannot come back for more than a couple weeks i am not taking all my dogs anyway...
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: Clybrad on November 03, 2011, 06:51:32 PM
Prepperjim did you pay for it? We played with them today. I would love to have one of my own.
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: Welshrats on November 04, 2011, 02:53:04 PM
Prepperjim did you pay for it? We played with them today. I would love to have one of my own.

I found an electronic (PDF) version of the Emergency Response Guide at: http://www.ehso.com/ehsodot.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fphmsa.dot.gov/staticfiles/PHMSA/DownloadableFiles/Files/erg2008_eng.pdf (http://www.ehso.com/ehsodot.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fphmsa.dot.gov/staticfiles/PHMSA/DownloadableFiles/Files/erg2008_eng.pdf)
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: GeorgiaBoy on December 08, 2011, 05:31:59 PM
One thing I was always taught was that if you store written phone numbers with full 10 digits..
To always write them instead of the traditional areacode+phone+number..... format..
to write them where if this was the number 555-333-1212 instead write it as...   333-555-1212 or 555-121-1333
Something that you would know automatically yet others would not. Same as with credit card numbers...  Swap the 1st and 3rd set ie. 1111 2222 3333 4444 to 3333 2222 1111 4444

Just simple things where you can keep things written down for safe keeping ...

If SHTF completely... and you have everything on a USB key... what are the odds that electronics are down/gone as well? aside from your EMP hardened military installations... how many people are prepared for an EMP in case they have to use a laptop to access their USB key?

Just something to think about?

Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: jcrev on December 10, 2011, 04:06:56 PM
So I've been putting together my document package and I've gotten to the "phone numbers" section, I have family, friends, police, hospital, red cross, poison control,doctor,pharmacy, isurance company.  Am I missing anything?  Are there any other ideas for the document package other than what Jack suggests??  Thanks
Samson, thanks for posting this, I am just using your basic list there to start my phone list! I was looking on the main podcast site, and could not find a list of things that should go in the document package. Does anyone know if there was a show that went into the doc package in more depth, or if there's another thread that does or something?
Thanks
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: ShannonB on December 10, 2011, 05:36:49 PM
J - check out this thread. Mil did a great job on the list and shamefully, i am still not finished!

http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=22614.msg324967#msg324967
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: blackhawk542 on January 16, 2012, 07:22:35 PM
Someone may have already cover this someplace else, but here are a few things to consider. The contact information for the state that you may have been born in to replace birth certificates, also the contact information for replacement marrige license. The only reason I mention this is incase your documents were destoyed in a encounter with nature (tornado, hurricane, wildfire). You may be away from your home when things happen and would need to replace them while trying to sort through the wreckage. Also if you contact your county courthouse they may be willing to record the documents in their records which will make things easier. Just an idea...
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: Ponce on January 18, 2012, 05:20:11 PM
Do as Gaboy says, I already done it that way.......also......make more than one list and keep it at different places, you never know where you will end up at and you just might loose the one with you.
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: pokeshell on March 09, 2012, 01:42:27 PM
A place to board your pets if a bugout means not going some place pet friendly

Wow, that is a fantastic business idea.
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: Hootie on March 27, 2012, 12:54:05 PM
A lot of things are done on-line and the number and complexity of user id's and passwords can be daunting to remember for 10 or 20 sites.  I would suggest having the account numbers, user id and passwords for these sites available with a simple code (ie. add two digits or letters to each number or letter written down).... If you are hurt and you are the one who does the banking in the family, this information could be very important to help your wife do the necessary business of the family.  And all she needs is how to work the simple code.

I am kind of security conscious, but have lots of loggins for web sites. my passwords are those imposible to remember kinds, like $fgT5i&oyt. But after a good friend passed away, his parents and i spent 3 weeks trying to put his finances in order (a year later they are still trying to sort things out). After that I setup my logins in password management app (Lastpass).
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: AngusBangus on April 15, 2012, 12:28:11 PM
+1 to portableapps.com and a few more suggestions that I'm doing with my on personal family emergency plan files/stick.

Create a bootable USB stick [removes need to have access to a functioning hard drive - only a functioning motherboard/screen], load portable apps on the stick including a productivity suite like OpenOffice, a media player like VLC, and anything else you might want available at portableapps.com [removes need for software local to CPU], as well as PDFs of your important documents and electronic versions of your hard-copy emergency plan (maps/phone numbers/etc). You could also use this stick to keep all your prepper library, the old episodes of TSP, and other super-whamodyne downloads available to the MSB if you've joined. A 16GB stick is enough to keep audio/video for days and enough PDFs to fill up a large library - your on little electronic ant hill. 2 is 1, 1 is none... so clone the thing once you're done.

If you are loading sensitive items (PDFs of SSN cards, IDs, Credit cards, etc.), you can also encrypt the drive with TrueCrypt (http://www.truecrypt.org/) so it's basically uselss gack to anyone who doesn't have the key. You can even encrypt a hidden partition or file within the encrypted disk so you can give up your level 1 encryption key and no one will be the wiser that there is more data there. Keep some non-sensitive info on the root of the drive to avert the eyes of a would-be interrogator. Think of it like an electronic "throw away gun" that you would hand to authorities.
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: nature on June 09, 2012, 03:59:26 AM
 Howdy all, 1st timer into the forum. Funny, I just started to work on this the other day. I keep a "file" on my wife, myself and all the kids. In that "file I keep a copy of birth certificate, current pictures, fingerprints, a blood sample for dna. A medical write up on each including but not limited to; height, weight , hair and eye color etc. List of past medical history, any conditions and what the treatment/ meds are. Along with the usual phone numbers I have xeroxed copies of soc. sec. cards, drivers lic. school Id. cards. I have about a page of descriptive writing on each person detailing characteristics, habits hobbies/interests and anything else I can think of that will help others find/Identify my loved ones should that unfortunate need arise. I hope this helps somebody to be more prepared.
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: Wild Colonial Boy on June 15, 2012, 10:23:21 AM
Samson, thanks for posting this, I am just using your basic list there to start my phone list! I was looking on the main podcast site, and could not find a list of things that should go in the document package. Does anyone know if there was a show that went into the doc package in more depth, or if there's another thread that does or something?
Thanks

Samson and Jcrev,

FYI, Jack has put together a number of podcasts over the years covering off on documentation if your still looking for information.  Podcasts worth checking out include:

Episode 28 - The Importance of Documentation of Survival and Evacuation Plans
Episode 124 - Overlooked Items for the Bug Out Bag
Episode 148 - Bug Out Planning and Documentation
Episode 171 - Getting Started Moving from Grasshopper to Ant
Episode 283 - Emergency Vehicle Preparations
Episode 298 - Starting the Journey from Grasshopper to Ant
Episode 356 - Getting Started From Zero the How and Why

Hope this helps you and anyone else out there that is struggling with this critical preparedness task.
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: ChadK on June 15, 2012, 10:56:16 AM
For digital files I use some software I wrote.  I have scanned copies of birth certificates, drivers licenses, a keepass database with all my web passwords, financials, etc.  It's all encrypted and compressed and I carry it with me always at least on a micro sd card and with other copies spread out (cell phone memory card, thumb drive, dropbox). 

I needed something that was quick and secure but didn't find anything.  Being a developer it was a fun project to do, and useful.  I run it once a week (takes about 5 minutes) and replace all my copies.

I have a company writing software so I have no time to pursue this as a money maker, just want to offer it up for other SP'ers to use:
http://pathware.net/?page_id=27 (http://pathware.net/?page_id=27)


Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: ChadK on June 15, 2012, 11:16:13 AM
Just thought of something else to include (didn't see it anywhere previously, sorry if i missed it)...current photos of the kids in case we need it.  Sad we need to think like that...
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: SmartLikeTruck on June 30, 2012, 12:48:22 AM
Should be able to copy & paste right into spreadsheet to get started quick.
What I gleaned so far for the contact list and a couple of my own additions.

Police
Wildfire
Fire
Hospital
Red cross
Poison control
Dentist
Doctor
Pharmacy
Insurance companies
Roofer
Septic service
Hvac
Plumber
Electrician
Tree service
Glass
Gas company
Electric company
Water company
Telephone company
Bank
Credit card
School
Work
Weather
Road conditions
Kennel
Veterinarian
Auto club
Accommodations
Family
Friends
Neighbours
Lawyer
Bail bondsman

Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: SmartLikeTruck on June 30, 2012, 12:51:13 AM
On the subject of kids photos, if you have a trail camera pointed at the house, you have a record of what kids/spouse were wearing when they left the house.

Also vehicle make, model and plate numbers.
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: ib71 on August 03, 2012, 10:07:28 PM
I copy important info onto waterproof map paper that you can use in laser printer. It is waterproof and foldable about $50 for 25 sheets.
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: idelphic on August 04, 2012, 08:53:28 AM
Should be able to copy & paste right into spreadsheet to get started quick.
What I gleaned so far for the contact list and a couple of my own additions.

Police
<...>
Bail bondsman
Nice list SLT , but Bail Bondsman?  Interesting to start with the Police,.. and end the list with needing bail.. LOL - I'll have to ponder on that a bit.
On the subject of kids photos, if you have a trail camera pointed at the house, you have a record of what kids/spouse were wearing when they left the house.

Also vehicle make, model and plate numbers.
Hmm.. Interesting idea.  I can see the use, but I can also see where it's not possible.  There isn't any place to post a game / trail camera in my front yard that wouldn't be seen every day.  Almost every trip we make uses the garage as the exit point - mainly since we normally have the cars in the garage.  But we are also one of the few states that does not require / issue front license plates.  So there is a 50/50 chance to get that information.

Good thought though.
I copy important info onto waterproof map paper that you can use in laser printer. It is waterproof and foldable about $50 for 25 sheets.
Uhm - Holy Cow??  $50 for 25 sheets..  I hope that is 11x17" paper..  that is way way to costly...  While I would love to use that type of paper... that is just not within the operational budget. 

I have heard that many people spray maps or papers with polyurethane to accomplish the same thing.  Another project that I have been meaning to do.

Good information ffor thought though.
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: AngusBangus on August 06, 2012, 09:49:29 AM
I have heard that many people spray maps or papers with polyurethane to accomplish the same thing.  Another project that I have been meaning to do.
Great idea!

A bit off-topic, but only kinda since I include maps as a significant part of my document package...
I picked up 4 updated copies of the "Mississippi Official Highway Map" (1 for each vehicle and one for home/office) from the county tax collectors office the other day for a total of $0.00 (if you don't include the property taxes I paid this year). A good spray down with some polyurethane would be a great add to allow using a grease pencil for routes and provide some water-proofing.
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: Fusilier on August 17, 2012, 05:29:55 AM
I have always made colour photocopies of all my wallet cards (credit, library, store affinity cards, driver's license, etc.) and kept one envelope hidden away in my car. I started doing this primarily when traveling on vacation in case the primary documents got lost. This year instead of paper copies, I made colour scans of these documents and produced a single PDF file complete with password protection, and I just loaded it onto my iPod. I'm sure it would work with any smart phone if you like.

I like the suggestions above on building a portable flash drive with your data on it as well. Perhaps once I get my home paper binder in order.

Also, since I use a Mac and an iPod, I'll be building my emergency phone list in the Mac's address book. My plan is to just print the entire address book onto paper for the emergency binder. If a contact/phone number is important enough to have for emergency use, then it is important enough to be in my iPod which I have with me all the time. If I could synch my address book to my old non-smart phone, I'd do that too but for now it isn't practical to hand enter every single phone number in my address book into my old phone.
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: doublehelix on September 29, 2012, 01:53:42 PM
I copy important info onto waterproof map paper that you can use in laser printer. It is waterproof and foldable about $50 for 25 sheets.

Nice tip.  I just ordered a ream to copy my contact list onto.
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: ChEng on October 01, 2012, 08:58:22 PM
dont forget the number for 911!  lol

Great idea!  Do you happen to know their number for the Pittsburgh area?

All kidding aside, there are (IIRC) a few areas inside the U.S. that are not covered by Emergency 911 service (and don't forget that VOIP services (such as Skype, Vonage and others) do not go directly to the real 911 system.  Also, there are some areas outside the U.S. that do not have an equivalent.  Write down your local emergency numbers, if they are not covered under the 911 number.
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: pokeshell on October 01, 2012, 11:56:45 PM
Nice list SLT , but Bail Bondsman?  Interesting to start with the Police,.. and end the list with needing bail.. LOL

I bet they carry a gun on a regular basis. I keep a list attorneys in my wallet, and also listed with the emergency numbers in our kitchen. My attorney works as my bail bondsman.

The last thing I want is my wife figuring out what attorney does what while I am sittin' in jail. She knows we keep 2 on retainer One is for our businesses, and the other is for trouble. The only time I used the "trouble atty" was when my car was towed at midnight (we had paid and had proof, so figured they would give car back). But I still ended up at the impound lot with 2 handguns(My wife gave me hers so we could not both get arested for gun possession), 4 police and about 100 no guns allowed signs. I was at that point in a bad neighborhood, with no trunk to lock them in. The police were on my side, and never hassled about the guns.

I started the night in a very upscale sushi restaurant, and ended filing a stolen car report.

2 of the tow truck employees had open warrents, and got arrested. I got my car back, no fines paid. (We also got $400 in gift certificates from the owner of the car lot for local restaurants he owned).  8) His kid was in charge of pickling up the envelopes from the lot, and ours dropped between the seats. He found it back at the office, but by then, the car was already towed.

Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: cbowseriii on November 04, 2012, 07:55:27 PM
Would it be better to have it on a flash drive or print it off?
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: FrugalFannie on November 05, 2012, 05:53:14 AM
Would it be better to have it on a flash drive or print it off?

Both. 2 is 1, 1 is none. Paper is susceptible to moisture, fire, etc., digital record may not be accessible.
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: Crazy Fox on January 28, 2013, 05:57:30 PM
There is some great advice in this thread!

I built a document package for my car this weekend and included all the basics (copies of license, permits, passports, birth certificate, SELECTIVE SERVICE REGISTRATION etc.) plus a complete list of all my account numbers which I "encrypted" using excel.

As far as emergency numbers, might I suggest numbers for local government information resources? I added the CO National Guard, CO Emergency Management Division, and the local FEMA office [I know the tin foil hat brigade will probably cringe at that last one  ;)]
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: AngusBangus on February 04, 2013, 11:28:03 AM
There is some great advice in this thread!

I built a document package for my car this weekend and included all the basics (copies of license, permits, passports, birth certificate, SELECTIVE SERVICE REGISTRATION etc.) plus a complete list of all my account numbers which I "encrypted" using excel.

As far as emergency numbers, might I suggest numbers for local government information resources? I added the CO National Guard, CO Emergency Management Division, and the local FEMA office [I know the tin foil hat brigade will probably cringe at that last one  ;)]

I assume a DD-214 would suffice in place of selective service? Are you draft age?
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: Crazy Fox on February 04, 2013, 11:58:05 AM
I assume a DD-214 would suffice in place of selective service? Are you draft age?

I would include your DD-214, if only so that you have a record of it on the off chance you lose the original or need to prove your history at some point. I figure the more documentation you have available, the better.

Yes, I am of draft age so I figured my Selective Service Number is a good thing to hold on to. That reminds me, I'd better update my address info with Uncle Sam!
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: idelphic on February 04, 2013, 03:38:24 PM
I assume a DD-214 would suffice in place of selective service? Are you draft age?
Angus - Would you know if you can get a replacement DD214?  I'm sure I have mine..  but curious.
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: bartsdad on February 05, 2013, 12:07:57 AM
Angus - Would you know if you can get a replacement DD214?  I'm sure I have mine..  but curious.
http://www.archives.gov/veterans/military-service-records/about-service-records.html
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: AngusBangus on February 05, 2013, 09:26:31 AM
Angus - Would you know if you can get a replacement DD214?  I'm sure I have mine..  but curious.
The link above will get you to the federal records. The VA in the state of your home of record should have also received one. That might be easier for you to get.
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: idelphic on February 05, 2013, 10:35:47 AM
http://www.archives.gov/veterans/military-service-records/about-service-records.html
The link above will get you to the federal records. The VA in the state of your home of record should have also received one. That might be easier for you to get.
Thanks Guys,..  In the mail / order / fax it goes.  Been needing to get it completed..
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: AshenChore on February 13, 2013, 02:19:02 PM
I've been using KeePass to store information.  It is free.  (http://keepass.info/) You can keep it on a flash drive and print out the info right from the application.

It isn't meant as an address book but I am using it like one.  What is nice about it: small application, creates an encrypted database, you only ever have to remember one password to access all your other passwords.

It allows you to enter web site addresses and user names and passwords, then with a few shortcut keys built in it will open web sites and enter your logon info for you.  It does keep passwords **** over by default.

TrueCrypt is nice too, as mentioned in an earlier post, and it is free.  I use that also.  It will allow plausible deniability by never changing the created and modified date of the storage file even after modifying files kept in it.

One more security mention for passwords, it has been shown that stringing together four common words into a single string, like: dinosaurhookglassshoe, is as secure as using a mixed set of characters, like: 63!ng6@d, and easier to remember so you don't always have to look up your passwords from file.

Best Regards
Ashen
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: Hurricane on February 13, 2013, 04:30:30 PM
Somthing I did not notice in the various lists of documents is a detailed work history.
Not just your resume, but all the names, addresses, etc. of everywhere you have ever worked.
Also the last known status of the company. I have a discouraging percentage which are closed, sold, vanished, etc.
If things are so bad that you can't go home, and have to get a job in another state, detailed references might be necessary.

The Social Security office can help you research this, but their fees can be tricky. IIRC, if you call them, it's free. If you go in to get a hard copy, $$.

Schools you attended, including one-shot night courses. Is the school still functioning? Who has the records?
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: AngusBangus on February 17, 2013, 08:58:11 PM
Somthing I did not notice in the various lists of documents is a detailed work history.
Not just your resume, but all the names, addresses, etc. of everywhere you have ever worked.
Also the last known status of the company. I have a discouraging percentage which are closed, sold, vanished, etc.
If things are so bad that you can't go home, and have to get a job in another state, detailed references might be necessary.

The Social Security office can help you research this, but their fees can be tricky. IIRC, if you call them, it's free. If you go in to get a hard copy, $$.

Schools you attended, including one-shot night courses. Is the school still functioning? Who has the records?
This might be a good thing to document on-line. I use LinkedIn which basically has my school and work history in chronological order. I COULD put details of each employer in there, but I figure "US Navy" is easy enough to get in touch with.
If things are OK enough to have people checking references, then they're probably OK enough to login. Just a thought.
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: Clybrad on August 20, 2013, 11:18:46 AM
I think I am to a point in the documentation package that I feel comfortable to print and store for now.  I kind of got burned out on trying to get every little item on the packet.

But now I have what I feel is everything done that I will need.

My next step is to photo copy my certifications, marriage license, CCW, vehicle ownership, birth certificates, and other stuff like that and put them on a flash drive.  I need to find a good encryption program to use and then store them in a fire box at my parents house.

A little tip for encrypting your numbers.  These are for credit card numbers, social security numbers, debit card numbers, etc... ya know... things that I cant remember and would like to know and cant find my wallet because it was left at home.  I put a number at the beginning of the sequence of numbers for my debit card that represented the number of dummy numbers before the real numbers begun.  For instance... 432155555555555512345 The 4 at the beginning tells me that there are 4 numbers (including the first) before the real numbers begin and then at the end there is a 5.  This tells me that there are 5 dummy numbers to cut off at the end.

Also to add some extra security I put these numbers in with the mundane stuff.  Like if the heading is dental insurance numbers.  I put a few lines of numbers that was relevant to dental insurance and then the credit card in the middle.

Just an idea.
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: Firstin Line on July 28, 2015, 02:09:45 PM
One of the most common and most likely emergencies that strike nationwide is the Power-Out disaster.  We are so accustomed to depending on digital storage that we forget that the computer, the discharged phone or other hand device, the telephone, and all other digital media will be useless for retrieving  stored emergency information.
Retrieving vital info. from your computer or printer are out of the question when you need it most.
The good old paper-and-pencil storage device is the only safe way to have vital info. available in a Power-Out emergency. The ammo. box or even a heavy plastic large-mouth container, think: Tupperware, will store your emergency info. safely.
And if possible, print it out on a laser printer, not an ink-jet.  Inkjet copies can be ruined by a drop or two of water, such as having to access it in the rain.
Good luck and hope you never need it.
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: PAGUY on August 16, 2015, 04:51:28 AM
This is one of the most overlooked preps that is simple to create and will payout ten fold when needed.  We take for granted calling our sister, or friend across town, or out of state contact by using the auto-dial feature on our phones.  When was the last time that you actually dialed one of those numbers manually?  There has been a posting on FB going around for awhile saying something to the effect of "I have not memorized a phone number since 2001".  This is true for millions and sad as can be. 
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: jchiar on October 13, 2015, 02:03:07 PM
Anyone found a way or method of creating electronic documents and printing to small portable notebook size documents?

Anyone try using Waterproof Ink-Jet Paper from Rite in the Rain? I use their small notebooks for notes, but i want to work with something editable
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: shadowalker_returns on August 17, 2017, 06:49:30 PM
Anyone found a way or method of creating electronic documents and printing to small portable notebook size documents?

Anyone try using Waterproof Ink-Jet Paper from Rite in the Rain? I use their small notebooks for notes, but i want to work with something editable

I'm not sure what your asking?? You can easily create PDF files in Openoffice or Libre (both are free office suites). Then you can print them out with any booklet printer that handles PDFs. I use a software package thats no longer being marketed. There are other choices like PdfBooklet 3, BookletCreator, ClickBook and similar. You can often make small format booklets by being creative with the print options in your word processing software (change paper size and orientation, play with column settings). For water resistance in general laser is better than ink-jet. though there are many methods that work to enhance the water resistance of ink on paper. When I was single and living aboard my boat, I used spray on clear coat to seal my important papers. I now have a thermal lamination machine that works well (bought it at Sam's club along with a box of laminating sheets). I was happy using the clear coat but wifey wanted to "laminate" (yes she gets what she wants :O ). If you just want to create electronic documents two quick ways: 1) scan the paper documents into a computer and then create a PDF file or 2) use a digital camera to take a picture of the item and store it in a common high resolution format. Hope this helps.

Regards,
Shadowalker
Title: Re: Document Package Phone Numbers
Post by: TheLastBoyscout on September 25, 2017, 05:05:08 AM
This is something that I have overlooked as of recent and have to review and update.