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Title: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: idelphic on July 13, 2011, 01:33:51 PM
UV-3R BAOFENG136-174/400-470Mhz +USB program NEW!

(http://www.verotelecom.com/pic1/UV-3R.jpg)

http://cgi.ebay.com/UV-3R-BAOFENG136-174-400-470Mhz-USB-program-NEW_W0QQitemZ110700909798QQihZ001QQcategoryZ163855QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

eHam Review

http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/9749

Manufacturer Site:
http://www.verotelecom.com/Dual-Band-Two-Way-Radio-UV-3R.htm
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: doublehelix on July 13, 2011, 06:07:07 PM
Only 2 watts output power and 99 channels, but a pretty good deal for close-in comms.
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: idelphic on July 14, 2011, 11:17:28 AM
Only 2 watts output power and 99 channels, but a pretty good deal for close-in comms.

That is what I thought..  I don't know anything about the radio,.. and some point I hope to get one just to goof with it.  If I break then then.. well.. what have I lost.  It's not my VX-7r..

I could see these  as useful rigs,.. but without knowing more,. difficult to say.
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: ForgedPatriot on December 24, 2012, 09:09:07 PM
You should check out the Duet Radio. Don't look at the price on their site. I bought my dual bander for $50 and it's better than my single band Yaesu FT-60R.

http://duet-radio.com/DT-UVD1P.html (http://duet-radio.com/DT-UVD1P.html)
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: TexasGirl on December 25, 2012, 12:11:30 AM
Idelphic, how easy is this thing to program?  I bought a Woxum KG-UV6D and it's really a pain to program on the fly, or modify existing memory slots (channels.)

*Rabbit Trail Alert*

I'd really like to find an economical dual band mobile that's easy to program, too.  My Kenwood TM-G707 mobile is about to become ham shack gear.  Everything about that model seems backwards.

*End Rabbit Trail Alert*

~TG
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: ForgedPatriot on December 25, 2012, 03:11:41 AM
Idelphic, how easy is this thing to program?  I bought a Woxum KG-UV6D and it's really a pain to program on the fly, or modify existing memory slots (channels.)

*Rabbit Trail Alert*

I'd really like to find an economical dual band mobile that's easy to program, too.  My Kenwood TM-G707 mobile is about to become ham shack gear.  Everything about that model seems backwards.

*End Rabbit Trail Alert*

~TG

Duet and Wouxoun are the same exact radios only one is a whole lot cheaper. They are kind of a pain to program, but its that way with just about any new handheld. How long have you been a HAM?
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: TexasGirl on December 25, 2012, 07:39:44 AM
Duet and Wouxoun are the same exact radios only one is a whole lot cheaper. They are kind of a pain to program, but its that way with just about any new handheld. How long have you been a HAM?

Well, I've kinda been a ham most of my life, but just now getting into amateur radio.

Sorry.  Okay...

Yeah, several of those Chinese radios look similar.  Didn't know if they came from the same factory, or had the same engineering team, or just a lack of imagination.

I've been exposed to commercial (business and public service) two-way radio for many years, so it wasn't a big jump to amateur. 

~TG
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: scoob on December 25, 2012, 08:46:03 AM
I have the UV-5R+. (1w/5w) Actually, at $43/each I bought 3.

While I was waiting on my cable, which came across by rowboat, I got familiar with programming by keypad.  It's not exactly intuitive, but not difficult once you get it.  If you go to
http://www.miklor.com/uv5r/ there is probably everything you need to know about the UV-5r, and some of it might cross over to the UV-3r and wouxun.
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: SCWolverine on December 27, 2012, 08:40:04 AM
UV-3R BAOFENG136-174/400-470Mhz +USB program NEW!

(http://www.verotelecom.com/pic1/UV-3R.jpg)

http://cgi.ebay.com/UV-3R-BAOFENG136-174-400-470Mhz-USB-program-NEW_W0QQitemZ110700909798QQihZ001QQcategoryZ163855QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

eHam Review

http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/9749

Manufacturer Site:
http://www.verotelecom.com/Dual-Band-Two-Way-Radio-UV-3R.htm

I'm a Wouxun guy, but I'd give the UV-5R a closer look for (as mentioned) $43 on amazon.   "they" say it's a little easier to use and offers higher power and an extended life battery. I've got them on my 'to buy' list for 2013...

SCW
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: SCWolverine on December 27, 2012, 08:45:16 AM
You should check out the Duet Radio. Don't look at the price on their site. I bought my dual bander for $50 and it's better than my single band Yaesu FT-60R.

http://duet-radio.com/DT-UVD1P.html (http://duet-radio.com/DT-UVD1P.html)

FP-please share where you found them for $50!  Thanks!
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: ForgedPatriot on December 27, 2012, 01:19:34 PM
FP-please share where you found them for $50!  Thanks!

I got mine at a store outside of Houston when I was there. Houston Amateur Radio Supply. I believe they have gone back up to like $80 now, but still....that's wayyyyy better than alot of other radios on the market, and it does the same exact thing!
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: Canadian Prepper on February 23, 2013, 05:51:23 PM
I got mine at a store outside of Houston when I was there. Houston Amateur Radio Supply. I believe they have gone back up to like $80 now, but still....that's wayyyyy better than alot of other radios on the market, and it does the same exact thing!

I was just checking out Amazon, and found that a couple of dealers have the UV5R for approx $35-45. The 2013 model, with ugraged chassis is about $50. Micophones are any where from $15-20, and the USB connector for downloading softwear anywhere between $2-11. A USB connector and disk with softwear was $6 at one site, but even a lot of the software and instructions on programming are available online. Spare batteries are about $10, which is not a bad idea to get since there's no AA adapter that I'm aware of.

I'm not sure how much of a deal for international shipping to Canada but if I were in the US I certainly would have ordered at least one or two of these radios by now (one for EDC, another for BOB, and maybe third for lending to friends, etc).

Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: MaddoginMass on February 25, 2013, 06:34:15 AM
I picked one of these up from Amazon about a month ago and really like it.  I'm getting repeaters about 10 - 15 miles away.  I use Chirp to program the radio and also programmed in several public safety channels so I can use it as a scanner also (there is a way in Chirp to disable transmit on specific channels).

If you are just starting out, I highly recommend this if you are looking for an inexpensive start.
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: idelphic on March 08, 2013, 10:00:43 AM
I'll admit that I didn't go the BaoFeng route..  I did pick up a Wouxun from PowerWerx.  For the most part, for the cost of the radio, and the accessories I got with it, I have been impressed.

At some point I might get the BaoFeng - But I have two HTs,.. and hardly use either.  Local repeater usage is good,.. but the group I circle in isn't really active anymore.
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: katunk on March 11, 2013, 04:06:14 PM
Purchased Baofeng UV-5R (4 watts on high power). Bought the programming cable and the  thing works great. Pain to try and program thru keyboard, recommend buying programming cable with two plugs on it.  I originally bought a cable that had one plug on it and turned out to be a cloned cable with cloned IC inside that didn't work with cable driver. Will change antenna to a gain antenna. Great radio for the beginner ham.

Regards,
katunk

Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: RitaRose1945 on March 11, 2013, 08:15:23 PM
I picked one of these up from Amazon about a month ago and really like it.  I'm getting repeaters about 10 - 15 miles away.  I use Chirp to program the radio and also programmed in several public safety channels so I can use it as a scanner also (there is a way in Chirp to disable transmit on specific channels).

If you are just starting out, I highly recommend this if you are looking for an inexpensive start.

Chirp?
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: austinrob on March 12, 2013, 09:30:18 AM
Chirp?
http://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/Home (http://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/Home)

Some nice cross-platform programming software (cross PC platform and radio platform)
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: SCWolverine on March 12, 2013, 10:11:00 AM
http://hamgear.wordpress.com/2012/12/18/review-baofeng-uv-b5-baofeng-uv-b6/ (http://hamgear.wordpress.com/2012/12/18/review-baofeng-uv-b5-baofeng-uv-b6/)

There is a New Baofeng in town, and it's getting some great press! Cheap too!!!!
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: RitaRose1945 on March 12, 2013, 05:01:17 PM
http://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/Home (http://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/Home)

Some nice cross-platform programming software (cross PC platform and radio platform)

Interesting... thanks!
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: scoob on March 13, 2013, 07:42:05 AM
I'm getting repeaters about 10 - 15 miles away.

Not bragging, just adding to the testimony... I regularly check in to a net with my UV-5R on a 2m repeater that's 35 miles away with decent reports.

That UV-B# looks like an improvement, except for the reduction in # of characters for the memory channel name from 7 to 5.
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: slingblade on March 13, 2013, 11:01:00 AM
Great post.  I think I'm going to pull the trigger on a UV-B6.
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: Meldrew on March 13, 2013, 12:51:56 PM
Hang on - there's a new one.

Baofeng F-11  (http://www.wouxun.us/item.php?item_id=300&manufacturer_id=43)

Looks to be the same basic platform - 4watt/1watt, 128 memory slots

Don't mean to muddy the waters, just lettin' you know. 
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: SCWolverine on March 13, 2013, 08:22:26 PM
the F-11 has no tuning knob...there is a version that does....i think
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: Special K on March 14, 2013, 05:58:37 PM
The BaoFeng UV-5R gets a replacement... http://hamgear.wordpress.com/2012/12/18/review-baofeng-uv-b5-baofeng-uv-b6/
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: slingblade on March 20, 2013, 09:47:03 AM
Just ordered a UV-B6 off eBay for $41.00 shipped! 
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: idelphic on March 20, 2013, 11:01:07 AM
Just ordered a UV-B6 off eBay for $41.00 shipped!
Like to hear a review when you get it please...  Not that I need another radio..  but curious as to how it works out,.. feels,.. and what not.
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: slingblade on March 25, 2013, 09:47:42 AM
I cant believe it.  It is here already.  Yes, from China that quick.  I'm going to need an outlet adapter to get the battery charged.  Other than that, it looks much larger in the photos online - this thing is tiny.
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: Canadian Prepper on March 25, 2013, 11:10:48 AM
I cant believe it.  It is here already.  Yes, from China that quick.  I'm going to need an outlet adapter to get the battery charged.  Other than that, it looks much larger in the photos online - this thing is tiny.

Did yours not come with a North American compatable outlet adaptor? It looks as if that will be the determining issue of who I might order these from if I get one (or two).
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: slingblade on March 25, 2013, 01:35:56 PM
Did yours not come with a North American compatable outlet adaptor? It looks as if that will be the determining issue of who I might order these from if I get one (or two).

Just looked at it a little closer.  The two prong outlet is 220VAC.  I'm taking it over to the lab at work to charge it but will need a more permanent solution.
 
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: JustGreg on March 30, 2013, 12:58:26 PM
This is getting to the point where its inevitable--I've been putting off getting a ham license for...oh....30 years?

Time to study the requirements/license priv's table!

G.
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: ChrisFox on April 30, 2013, 08:02:53 AM
I just saw this come up on dealnews, BaoFeng UV-5R for under 40.


http://www.amazon.com/BaoFeng-UV-5R-136-174-400-480-Dual-Band/dp/B007H4VT7A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1367330448&sr=8-1&keywords=BaoFeng+UV-5R (http://www.amazon.com/BaoFeng-UV-5R-136-174-400-480-Dual-Band/dp/B007H4VT7A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1367330448&sr=8-1&keywords=BaoFeng+UV-5R)
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: backwoods_engineer on May 02, 2013, 02:06:37 PM
I just saw this come up on dealnews, BaoFeng UV-5R for under 40.


http://www.amazon.com/BaoFeng-UV-5R-136-174-400-480-Dual-Band/dp/B007H4VT7A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1367330448&sr=8-1&keywords=BaoFeng+UV-5R (http://www.amazon.com/BaoFeng-UV-5R-136-174-400-480-Dual-Band/dp/B007H4VT7A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1367330448&sr=8-1&keywords=BaoFeng+UV-5R)

I had the UV-3R.  Worked fine for a handheld.
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: Bradbn4 on June 16, 2013, 07:50:02 PM
I picked up BaoFeng UV-b5 & B6 - both work "fine" - both are basic same hardware - cheap dual band that seems to work better than you expect considering the low price points. The lowest price I seem to have found is 84 dollars for two with free slow boat shipping form China.

There is after market s/w to allow you to bypass the tedious programming as long as you have the special USB to dual prong adapter.  You will have to hunt up the right adapter, the cheap clones use fake chips in the cable and will require a "special" driver to get Windows 7 to recognize the cable.

The basic differences between the b5/6 is flash flight - versus secondary tuner knob.  If your budget is limited, needed cheap hardware to learn on, based on current reviews I would recommend this h/w worth considering.
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: NorIDhunter on July 04, 2013, 10:00:16 AM
Appreciate the info on these radios. I just met a a guy last Sat at a disaster exercise drill and he recommended these Boafeng 5's as a good starter intro,
I'm interested in a BaoFeng UV-5RE Plus @ $39.99 as a way to check out HAM, see if "it's for me", & start the road to "tech" but still have one on hand for a SHTF at a reasonable cost.

While I'm here, the "drill guy" suggested making/buying a backpackable (roll up?) J pole antenna, is that going to be compatible with this radio?

Thanks for the patience w/ the newbie(s)!  ;)
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: Bradbn4 on July 04, 2013, 11:47:31 AM
Appreciate the info on these radios. I just met a a guy last Sat at a disaster exercise drill and he recommended these Boafeng 5's as a good starter intro,
I'm interested in a BaoFeng UV-5RE Plus @ $39.99 as a way to check out HAM, see if "it's for me", & start the road to "tech" but still have one on hand for a SHTF at a reasonable cost.

While I'm here, the "drill guy" suggested making/buying a backpackable (roll up?) J pole antenna, is that going to be compatible with this radio?

Thanks for the patience w/ the newbie(s)!  ;)

I understand that the new generation of Boafeng uv-b series performs a bit better than the uv-5 series.  Yes, I have seen J pole antenna's that will work, like every thing else - check the fitting type and antenna size for your application.  Antenna fittings differ between radios so you will have to decide on your radio first.

Now if you need to make sure your equipment shares the same battery pack as others in the group; then I would consider something other than the UV-b5/6 radio's. 

If you do a search for "j pole antenna" plus dual band you may find what you are looking for on ebay.  However; I would recommend looking at some of the HAM specific board locations that would have recommended mfg for your intended use.

Also I would recommend looking at the slim Jim antenna.   A Slim Jim antenna is basically similar to a Jpole design, but it exhibits a lower radiation angle in the range of 8-10 degrees on the horizon, compared to 1/2 wave Jpole which exhibits a 20-30 degree angle on the horizon. (ie. more gain)

What sort of cost are we talking about here?  Under 40 dollars even if you decide to enclose the antenna within PVC pipe for home installation.
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: Special K on July 04, 2013, 02:10:26 PM
While I'm here, the "drill guy" suggested making/buying a backpackable (roll up?) J pole antenna, is that going to be compatible with this radio?


Sure is...I use a UV-B5 with this: http://www.ccares.net/Assets/roll%20up%20J%20pole.pdf
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: Special K on July 04, 2013, 02:18:58 PM
Forgot the lead/adapter:

http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/cable/cable.html

The cable adapter you are looking for is #5690 LMR-100 SO-239 to SMA Female (ARC112) for $18.95. Super thin 50 ohm cable that won't put strain on the delicate connector in the radio.
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: SCWolverine on July 05, 2013, 01:47:35 PM
N9TAX make/sells one of the nicest Roll-Up antennas avail:

http://www.2wayelectronix.com/
 
Yes, I will admit they are easy to build, I chose to buy :)
http://www.n9tax.com/Slim%20Jim%20Info.html

as mentioned above I also use an "HT saver" to minimize the strain on the antenna connection point on the HT.  When I first got my ticket my Wouxun HT was my Portable/Base/Mobile.  I operated for months using my N9TAX roll-up in base mode.  It hangs now in the corner as a bad weather back-up to my Arrow J-Pole mounted outside to the chimney.

A roll up antenna is a good add-on to put in your 'box' and it will Greatly increase the use of your HT!!!

btw: a friend and new ticket holder purchased a pair of the Baofeng 5B model and with the little testing we've completed, they seem like really nice little radios....kinda of a Mini-Wouxun!

SCW
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: doublehelix on July 05, 2013, 04:05:11 PM
Just as a point of info on antennas.

We did extensive testing with our ARES setup here locally in a geographically dispersed city.

It was found that a magnetic mount 1/2 wave dual-band mobile antenna, used with either a mag mount base on a CONEX container, or with a ground plane kit, achieved at least 2x the signal quality of Jpole antennas.

While Jpoles are great for expedient antennas, I would never consciously use one in day-day operations.

My two cents.

The Baoefung radios are impressive for the price, but the Wouxun's are a lot more versatile for the price IMHO.



Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: garysco on July 21, 2013, 10:33:09 PM
I have been playing with 3 Baofeng UV-B6's  for a couple of weeks now, and for under $40.00 delivered (EBay ) or $43.00 Amazon it is a very good deal.

Comes with drop in charger, slide on 2000mAh quick change battery, pretty decent 6.5" dual-band antenna and a really nice strong spring-loaded belt clip.  The case material is nice tough plastic and has a 6 second white LED backlit 5 character alpha-numeric display. The audio is excellent (Tx & RX), it does 6.25Kc narrow splinter frequencies well,  and it uses older Kenwood speaker-mic accessories. Beware that it is now using the reverse-SMA antenna connector, and DOES NOT have a  DC ( 7.4v) power jack . If using the 5 watt Tx it will get warm, but loves 1watt all day long. The "dual-watch" works very nice & fast (even on PL/ DPL Rx) and  I am impressed with how quickly and quietly it "looks back"  to monitor my MURS driveway alert while listening to local FM broadcast. The only head scratcher is why did they make a 99 channel scanning radio but forget to provide any channel "lockout" features??? D'oh! IMHO it is the best Baofeng to date.
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: Greekman on July 22, 2013, 12:53:23 AM
Quote
Beware that it is now using the reverse-SMA antenna connector, and DOES NOT have a  DC ( 7.4v) power jack

thank you for posting this...yuo saved me some trouble cos these are a deal breaker fo me.
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: Special K on July 22, 2013, 12:08:00 PM
The only head scratcher is why did they make a 99 channel scanning radio but forget to provide any channel "lockout" features??? D'oh! IMHO it is the best Baofeng to date.

Channel lockout can only accessed through either the OEM or CHIRP programming software.

This blog post might of interest to individuals on this thread: http://hamgear.wordpress.com/2013/07/15/whats-the-best-chinese-dual-band-ht/
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: iam4liberty on July 23, 2013, 08:55:16 PM
I use both the UV-3R and the UV-5RA.  They are great value rigs.  One of the strengths is that it is easy to find upgrade antennas for them like the Nagoya and Diamond SMA antennas. They greatly improve transmit.  +1 on using chirp.  The UV-3R programming is fairly intuitive.  But the UV-5RA uses a somewhat odd format for storing repeater information.  There is a great FAQ here including flowcharts: http://www.miklor.com/uv5r/ (http://www.miklor.com/uv5r/)
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: joelevi on August 05, 2013, 03:43:50 PM
UV-3R BAOFENG136-174/400-470Mhz +USB program NEW!

(http://www.verotelecom.com/pic1/UV-3R.jpg)

...

I've got this radio. It's got pretty decent battery life and charges via USB (but it uses a proprietary cable) and works well on both 2M and 70CM. It's small and tough... but since it doesn't have a keypad, you'll be turning that knob a LOT!
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: vr6isfaster on November 20, 2013, 11:09:52 AM
I've had the 3r for a couple years now and am very satisfied. It really is a simple, effective and worry-free radio. It is cheap enough that you really don't need to worry about having it everywhere you are, and you aren't filled with anxiety about leaving it in the car. There are a lot of forms online with open source programming instruction manuals that keep things simple. The battery it uses is available very cheap on ebay given that it is also used in a digital camera (I think). The only downfall of this radio is that the battery charging cradle is a joke. It appears to have no logic inside it and relies on the protection circuit in the battery to indicate an overcharge situation and cut off. This really is not ideal for battery life so I just charge the battery in the radio. It appears to take somewhere between two and four hours and will run all day if you're not constantly talking on it. It is excellent to keep in the car (not a hot car... battery life) just as a police receiver, but do be sure that you do not program PL tones in for transmit so that if it falls into the wrong hands or you aren't paying attention to what you're doing. That's right, this radio is able to transmit on all frequencies it receives except for broadcast FM radio. You don't accidentally key a police repeater outside of an emergency situation. The only problem I've had with the radio is that the factory wall wart died after six months or so of use but that really doesn't matter given that it just wants USB power.
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: SCWolverine on November 20, 2013, 03:32:38 PM
I just bought 4 UV3's for the kids Christmas....still boxed up right now  ;)
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: Texas Sawduster on December 09, 2013, 10:41:56 AM
Dropped my Duet a couple of times.
Cracked the case. Still works but with the hi-gain antenna, it cuts in and out.
Must be loose inside the case at the antenna connection.

I think it's time to go with the Baofeng.
Cheaper and just as good with more accessories.

Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: Greekman on December 09, 2013, 01:56:12 PM
I think i si tiem to ask how reliable are the Baeofengs.
I ahve seen no bad reports around adn the ony dude i heard comenting on them (that they have the tendency to break down0 is not at all reliable
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: Gunnywag on March 04, 2015, 10:00:15 PM
Been putting it off, but not for much longer....  Yay Baofeng
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: Carl on March 05, 2015, 02:11:46 PM
I just would not be concerned with power as a line of sight radio about 7 miles on flat ground is your limit and raising power from one watt to eight or ten will not get you another mile. A higher location or more effective antenna will make more improvement than a power increase...all power does is use up your battery.
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: Sailor on March 05, 2015, 02:25:08 PM
I just would not be concerned with power as a line of sight radio about 7 miles on flat ground is your limit and raising power from one watt to eight or ten will not get you another mile. A higher location or more effective antenna will make more improvement than a power increase...all power does is use up your battery.


This,

Simply moving to a second story, or transmitting on an overpass or the top of a parking garage can you contacts. 
Title: Re: 'Cheap' Radio
Post by: Gunnywag on July 28, 2015, 10:12:23 AM
Finally got it, works great!  Can't beat the price :)