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Re: 40m NVIS for this coming Sunday
« Reply #60 on: September 07, 2014, 12:31:29 PM »
Nothing happened on 40m this week, and up on 20m, 14.310, .320, & .3225 are all busy with other folks.  Meh, maybe next week.

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Re: 40m NVIS for this coming Sunday
« Reply #61 on: September 07, 2014, 12:47:08 PM »
I was there ,but propagation was so good the VE's were 30 over S9 and NVIS would not do with such high signal levels.

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Re: 40m NVIS for this coming Sunday
« Reply #62 on: September 07, 2014, 05:13:00 PM »
Try droping down to 60 meters. You could also double check DIDBasic.com. Go to the home page pick your closest city and check the FoF2.

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Re: 40m NVIS for this coming Sunday
« Reply #63 on: September 07, 2014, 05:51:54 PM »
Sorry I made a mistake. The web site is  ulcar.uml.edu/DIDBase  . Go to station list to find the closest city to you. How far north or south you live will affict the FoF2 for your state Auston TX and Eglin AFB had a FoF2  of 8.850  and 8.587 MHz. Ware as Alpina MI and Bolder Co.  were 4.750 and 4.550 MHz all at 1900Z (GMT)

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Re: 40m NVIS for this coming Sunday
« Reply #64 on: September 07, 2014, 06:02:30 PM »
I tuned into 14.310 at 2:30 EST and thought I heard the CQ for TSP up here in Toronto Canada, but didn't appear to have any luck when responding. My landlord has offered to mount the dipole off the roof of the house, which should double the height if I could hook the other end to the tree across the property, so God willing I'll eventually be able get through to you.

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Re: 40m NVIS for this coming Sunday
« Reply #65 on: September 07, 2014, 06:08:20 PM »
Cool...Thanks.

Alan and I are looking at antenna comparisons,for now. and the data from the site will give us more data for our comparisons.
For now though,we get data whether we can talk to each other or not . But it is more fun when we can talk.

Thanks again for the information.

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Re: 40m NVIS for this coming Sunday
« Reply #66 on: September 07, 2014, 06:18:49 PM »
I tuned into 14.310 at 2:30 EST and thought I heard the CQ for TSP up here in Toronto Canada, but didn't appear to have any luck when responding. My landlord has offered to mount the dipole off the roof of the house, which should double the height if I could hook the other end to the tree across the property, so God willing I'll eventually be able get through to you.

Today was quite noisy for Alan and I this afternoon is not normally the best time for 40 meters ,and that is why we do it at what is normally a poor propagation time ,because NVIS works for local (Alan is 200 miles from me) comms when propagation has the band closed for distance. Alan does also call in 14.310 plus a bit at 1:30 and that would be your best time for us.

VULTURE774 is working up a TSP NET and it should be at better propagation times and frequencies than my and Alans NVIS test sessions. Alan and I will,schedule allowing, be at that net time also. So keep working at it to develop hardware and skills
and this combined effort should begin to grow as we collect more ANTS.

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Re: 40m NVIS for this coming Sunday
« Reply #67 on: September 07, 2014, 06:37:26 PM »
I tuned into 14.310 at 2:30 EST and thought I heard the CQ for TSP up here in Toronto Canada, but didn't appear to have any luck when responding. My landlord has offered to mount the dipole off the roof of the house, which should double the height if I could hook the other end to the tree across the property, so God willing I'll eventually be able get through to you.
Wasn't me.  All I could hear were some QSL parties and rag-chews in progress, on the primary and both alternate frequencies, so I moved on.

Don't give up though, CP!  Winter is coming, bringing better propagation, and we're still working some ideas.

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Re: 40m NVIS for this coming Sunday
« Reply #68 on: September 07, 2014, 06:40:40 PM »
Wasn't me.  All I could hear were some QSL parties and rag-chews in progress, on the primary and both alternate frequencies, so I moved on.

Don't give up though, CP!  Winter is coming, bringing better propagation, and we're still working some ideas.

He must have heard me going through the motions and calling CQ-TSP,even with the heavy traffic. Perhaps a week day would get some of the contesters out of the program?

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Re: 40m NVIS for this coming Sunday
« Reply #69 on: September 07, 2014, 07:35:51 PM »
Perhaps a week day would get some of the contesters out of the program?

I think you're right.  Also, it'll have to be an evening, probably after dark now that fall's almost here.

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Re: 40m NVIS for this coming Sunday
« Reply #70 on: September 07, 2014, 08:26:11 PM »
He must have heard me going through the motions and calling CQ-TSP,even with the heavy traffic. Perhaps a week day would get some of the contesters out of the program?

That would make sense. I thought I heard someone distinctly call CQ TSP at least twice, but a few minutes later it became apparent that some other users were on the same frequency.

I find that I could get a response on the 14.300 Intercon and Maritime Mobile Nets if I'm around during the week or even on Saturday or Sunday mornings, but Friday, Saturday and Sunday evenings I'm drowned out by the plethora of other callers.

With the propagation getting better and my dipole higher I trust that we'll make contact eventually. In the meantime it's a pleasure to track your progress and ideas on the forum.

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Re: 40m NVIS for this coming Sunday
« Reply #71 on: September 08, 2014, 12:33:33 AM »
Yep. Nothin' like blowin' the dust off the mic and talking to friends. :tinfoily:

We need a radio smiley ,but tin foil hat was close enough...

admin could we add this one:
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Re: 40m NVIS for this coming Sunday
« Reply #72 on: September 08, 2014, 05:45:05 AM »
admin could we add this one:
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COOL.../they are both great!

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Re: 40m NVIS for this coming Sunday
« Reply #73 on: September 09, 2014, 04:10:23 PM »
I was out of pocket for last Sunday's tests, and will be on the road this Sunday, but I could try from the 100Watt HF mobile station.  I have a Hamstick on 20 meters, and I think I have one for 40 somewheres...

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Re: 40m NVIS for this coming Sunday
« Reply #74 on: September 09, 2014, 04:35:08 PM »
I was out of pocket for last Sunday's tests, and will be on the road this Sunday, but I could try from the 100Watt HF mobile station.  I have a Hamstick on 20 meters, and I think I have one for 40 somewheres...

Great, you might also look at this thread for weekday net:

http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=51531.0;topicseen

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Re: 40m NVIS for this coming Sunday
« Reply #75 on: September 14, 2014, 08:04:57 AM »
Still on for today.  Here's the sched:

40m: 1pm CDT / 1800 Zulu, 7.250 MHz (LSB).  If there's interference, step up by 2.5 kHz until we get out of the muck.

20m: 1:30 CDT / 18:30 Zulu, 14.310 MHz (USB).  If there's interference, step up to 14.320, then step from 2.5 kHz from there.

Please post if you're going to try to make it, and let us know about any signal reports afterward.

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Re: 40m NVIS for this coming Sunday
« Reply #76 on: September 14, 2014, 08:29:19 AM »
Still on for today.  Here's the sched:

40m: 1pm CDT / 1800 Zulu, 7.250 MHz (LSB).  If there's interference, step up by 2.5 kHz until we get out of the muck.

20m: 1:30 CDT / 18:30 Zulu, 14.310 MHz (USB).  If there's interference, step up to 14.320, then step from 2.5 kHz from there.

Please post if you're going to try to make it, and let us know about any signal reports afterward.

GREAT DEAL Alan, I will be at the Peppermint Mine organizing a few pallets of #10 cans and playing TWISTER game with my dog.I will run my 1/2 wave end fed as ground moisture is a bit high for the under soil antenna.

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Re: 40m NVIS for this coming Sunday
« Reply #77 on: September 14, 2014, 09:29:28 AM »
  I'll see if I can fined you on 20. 73

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Re: 40m NVIS for this coming Sunday
« Reply #78 on: September 14, 2014, 11:45:00 AM »
There's an extended ragchew going on on 7248.  I'm moving things up to 7252.5, and am going start calling CQ to camp out on the frequency.

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Re: 40m NVIS for this coming Sunday
« Reply #79 on: September 14, 2014, 11:51:19 AM »
There's an extended ragchew going on on 7248.  I'm moving things up to 7252.5, and am going start calling CQ to camp out on the frequency.

Warming up the rig,tuning the either...Alan ,you sound strong today,but the CME was rough as my AGC kept cutting back. Georgia sounded good ans would have been 100% if not for the noise.The dog wanted some of my long term storage CHEETOES ,so I cracked open a drum of the stuff, MMMMM comfort food. I gotta' get some FIZZIES so the water will have some variety.I will try 20 meters from home.
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Re: 40m NVIS for this coming Sunday
« Reply #80 on: September 14, 2014, 12:21:20 PM »
Yum!  OK, I'm up on 20m, camping out on 14.310 and calling CQ...

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Re: 40m NVIS for this coming Sunday
« Reply #81 on: September 14, 2014, 12:37:02 PM »
Yum!  OK, I'm up on 20m, camping out on 14.310 and calling CQ...

I heard organized noise,partial signal...maybe the mother ship.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suBp3ai-xG8
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Re: 40m NVIS for this coming Sunday
« Reply #82 on: September 14, 2014, 12:49:10 PM »
I heard one station on 20m, K?3???, respond way down in the noise, but that was it.

Ah well, on 40m that one guy came booming in from GA just fine, and of course we were able to talk Carl.  So again, we're having some success.

Time for a drink of water and a few phone calls.  Then I'll go play on 10m, see if there's anybody up there.

It's almost the equinox, a week from next Tuesday.  Already the noise level is better, and good propagation is just around the corner.

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Re: 40m NVIS for this coming Sunday
« Reply #83 on: September 14, 2014, 02:14:52 PM »
I heard one station on 20m, K?3???, respond way down in the noise, but that was it.

Ah well, on 40m that one guy came booming in from GA just fine, and of course we were able to talk Carl.  So again, we're having some success.

Time for a drink of water and a few phone calls.  Then I'll go play on 10m, see if there's anybody up there.

It's almost the equinox, a week from next Tuesday.  Already the noise level is better, and good propagation is just around the corner.

VK6FCIP...Peter who lives near Perth Australia ( a friend of mine) was listening and said he was hearing bits of you or me on 14.310 and called ,but with the "F" in his call is limited to 5 or 10 watts, something like that, he heard voices but not 100% it was us.He and I talk daily on my Echo Link node that is tied to a local repeater.

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Re: 40m NVIS for this coming Sunday
« Reply #84 on: September 20, 2014, 07:00:01 AM »
On for tomorrow!  Jump in, we've got to keep the ionosphere warm while Carl's recovering.  Here's the sched:

40m: 1pm CDT / 1800 Zulu, 7.250 MHz (LSB).  If there's interference, step up by 2.5 kHz until we get out of the muck.

20m: 1:30 CDT / 18:30 Zulu, 14.310 MHz (USB).  If there's interference, step up to 14.320, then step from 2.5 kHz from there.

Please post if you're going to try to make it, and let us know about any signal reports afterward.  Shortwave listeners encouraged to tune in and give signal reports too.  As always, don't post call signs, some folks are sensitive about that stuff.

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Re: 40m NVIS for this coming Sunday
« Reply #85 on: September 21, 2014, 10:50:14 AM »
I have my NVIS setup and will listen in, looks like in a little over an hour from now.

Are you guys set up for digital modes, too?  20m (14.070) isn't real hot now but I've just now been able to make some PSK31 contacts out to Maine and one in Guatemala on 15m- 20.080 MHz.  If you don't mind slow comms I'm game to try 15m or 20m (or 40m, but I haven't heard any digital traffic out there)
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On for tomorrow!  Jump in, we've got to keep the ionosphere warm while Carl's recovering.  Here's the sched:

40m: 1pm CDT / 1800 Zulu, 7.250 MHz (LSB).  If there's interference, step up by 2.5 kHz until we get out of the muck.

20m: 1:30 CDT / 18:30 Zulu, 14.310 MHz (USB).  If there's interference, step up to 14.320, then step from 2.5 kHz from there.

Please post if you're going to try to make it, and let us know about any signal reports afterward.  Shortwave listeners encouraged to tune in and give signal reports too.  As always, don't post call signs, some folks are sensitive about that stuff.

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Re: 40m NVIS for this coming Sunday
« Reply #86 on: September 21, 2014, 11:57:43 AM »
On in 3 minutes.  Will discuss digital modes, either on the air or here.

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Re: 40m NVIS for this coming Sunday
« Reply #87 on: September 21, 2014, 12:07:34 PM »
What freq are you on? I went up from 7.250 to 7.279 until I heard anyone, but I don't think it's you guys.

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Re: 40m NVIS for this coming Sunday
« Reply #88 on: September 21, 2014, 12:11:21 PM »
7.250

It's quiet out there today.  Not much noise (~S1), but not many signals either.

Tried the NVIS, then the inverted V 40/20m combo, called for 7 minutes, nothing.

OK, there's always 20m in 20 minutes!  14.310, with 14.320 for an alternate.

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Re: 40m NVIS for this coming Sunday
« Reply #89 on: September 21, 2014, 12:35:24 PM »
Also quiet; noise ~S3, but no signals either.  More discussion later, I've got a gun show to attend before closing time.