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Offline Alan Georges

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #30 on: September 16, 2014, 04:27:01 PM »
Baring the unforeseen, I'm in too.

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2014, 07:19:21 PM »
Currently in progress 7.270 LSB

Seems we are having some success!

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #32 on: September 18, 2014, 03:16:39 PM »

Well the second attempt for a TSP Hams NET went rather well!

It was an informal ragchew and the Calls for CQ-TSP were very nice to hear!

We had 4 Participants last night, one station in Kansas was able to hear all of the others although there was some QRM.



Link to the Net Report:
http://tspnet.tomstopics.com/2014/09/tsp-hams-net-for-sept-17-2014/


Once we get the Time/Frequency figured out; We'll be able to formalize the Net a bit more.

I'd love to see a schedule of Net Control Ops and Topics but we need to be able to find a clear space for communications. 


Thanks Everyone!

Tom D.
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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #33 on: September 21, 2014, 07:32:09 PM »
I am with you on this one! It is about timing for me. I will try to make them... I have been busy with the other Nets on AmRRON digital & voice.

Stay safe!

Well the second attempt for a TSP Hams NET went rather well!

It was an informal ragchew and the Calls for CQ-TSP were very nice to hear!

We had 4 Participants last night, one station in Kansas was able to hear all of the others although there was some QRM.



Link to the Net Report:
http://tspnet.tomstopics.com/2014/09/tsp-hams-net-for-sept-17-2014/


Once we get the Time/Frequency figured out; We'll be able to formalize the Net a bit more.

I'd love to see a schedule of Net Control Ops and Topics but we need to be able to find a clear space for communications. 


Thanks Everyone!

Tom D.
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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2014, 05:31:30 AM »
Time for another try.

Come Check-In to the TSP Hams Net!

Wednesday 9/24   @  9pm Eastern on 7.270  LSB

Chat Room: http://chat.tspnet.tomstopics.com

Use your call as the nickname so we know who's who.


Hope to hear some more of you tonight!

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #35 on: September 24, 2014, 06:21:38 PM »
Lets QSY the Net to 7.275 LSB  It's much quieter

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #36 on: September 24, 2014, 06:37:52 PM »
Lets QSY the Net to 7.275 LSB  It's much quieter
OK, see you in a bit.

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #37 on: September 24, 2014, 07:30:12 PM »
Not much luck.  Could hear Vulture ~3x7 at best, some of the time.  I think we were having an uphill fight this evening:


(prediction from the site http://www.hamqsl.com/solar.html )

I'll post some ruminations on antenna height, digital modes, etc. in a bit.

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #38 on: September 24, 2014, 10:29:43 PM »
Here's about the situation we had this evening:


In fact, it was probably a bit worse than this, based on the propagation forecast in the previous post.

A couple of notes on the modeling.  It was done using voacap.com, which is at best very approximate and represents average conditions for a given month and time of day.  Based on experience from last winter's attempts over at Prepared Ham, the model results are usually closer to actual performance if you reduce the input watts by a factor of 10.  Most of us are running 100w barefoot rigs, so I input 10w; the model automatically knocks this down another 20%.  It's not that critical.  Most of us are also running fairly low dipoles or other kinds of wire antennas, so I put in 10m height on each end.

Vulture mentioned in the chat room that he'd modeled things at 20m antenna height as well.  Here are the same results, but with the antennas jacked up to 20m height:

That's a good bit better!  But 20m – i.e., 65ft – takes some significant engineering.  Truth be known, my antenna "towers" are based on 20' lengths of PVC pipe, and that's only 6m high.  But 10m is the minimum setting in voacap, so that's what I went with.

PSK31 can boost performance by about 26 dB, but you need to back off on the power about 4x from SSB because of the duty cycle, so call it 20 dB, making it about the equivalent of CW.  Moving the antennas back down to 10m height and modeling that gives:

That's a bit better, kind of in the range we need.  Here's last winter's thread on PSK31: http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=47785.0  For what it's worth, it doesn't take much hardware to do this.

I'm leaning toward trying a digital net, but I'm not sure how many people would be on board with it.  That... and well, it's just more typing.  It's good to hear voices directly.  As tough as this is, I want to keep on trying SSB for a while.  Maybe both?  Maybe change the 1pm Sunday to PSK31?  Thoughts?

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #39 on: September 25, 2014, 04:29:57 PM »
Net Report at  http://tspnet.tomstopics.com/2014/09/tsp-hams-net-for-sept-24-2014/


Tough night, but lets push ahead.

Alan:  Digital sounds like its viable.  PSK-31 I assume is the way to go.   I'll need to construct an interface to my FT-747gx  maybe resurrect an old PC.


I'm going to work on my antenna height/config.   Squeeze some watts out of what I've got. :)


Thanks everyone for the attempts!  We'll get this sooner or later!


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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #40 on: September 28, 2014, 04:27:01 PM »
Net Report at  http://tspnet.tomstopics.com/2014/09/tsp-hams-net-for-sept-24-2014/


Tough night, but lets push ahead.

Alan:  Digital sounds like its viable.  PSK-31 I assume is the way to go.   I'll need to construct an interface to my FT-747gx  maybe resurrect an old PC.


I'm going to work on my antenna height/config.   Squeeze some watts out of what I've got. :)


Thanks everyone for the attempts!  We'll get this sooner or later!


Tom D.
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COOL PSK give many times more effective a signal,,,in and out..It will be some time before I get to play again.

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #41 on: October 01, 2014, 12:47:58 PM »
What mode and frequency are we going to try tonight?

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #42 on: October 01, 2014, 02:31:36 PM »
Join the Survival Podcast Hams Radio Network tonight.

Let’s see who we can find On-Air.

Changing up the Frequency!!!  7.275 LSB.

Wednesday’s at 9pm Eastern on 7.275 Mhz  LSB.

Log into the chat room to coordinate; just use your call as a nickname:  http://chat.tspnet.tomstopics.com



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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #43 on: October 01, 2014, 06:01:33 PM »
See Hear y'all in about an hour.

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #44 on: October 01, 2014, 07:20:28 PM »



NET REPORT:   http://tspnet.tomstopics.com/2014/10/tsp-hams-net-for-oct-1-2014/

 

Band conditions on this fourth attempt for a weekly net are somewhat improved.  Just not quite enough to run an effective net.

Participants:  xxxxxx, KB3PKB,  and KI4LZK (Momentarily)

 

Getting Better!

Alan, xxxxxx, is looking into possibly going digital with PSK-31 I assume.

Tom, KB3PKB,  just ordered a Donner Interface and is going to work with Alan on setting up a digital net.

Hopefully, propagation will improve and the Net will go smoother!

 

Thanks to everyone for their participation!

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #45 on: October 01, 2014, 07:35:11 PM »
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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #46 on: October 02, 2014, 05:20:35 AM »
Oops! Sorry about that.  I did a fast  Copy & Paste and forgot to redact the calls.

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #47 on: October 02, 2014, 05:49:14 PM »
No sweat, Vult.  Mr. Bill stepped in and zapped things out, and all is cool now.

It has just occurred to me that a combination of social obligations and business travel will have me off the air beginning next Wednesday through to the following Monday.  I will however have the Tecsun 660 and iPhone along with me to 1-way copy any nets that may be going on, and I'll give signal reports.

And of course, I'll still try to call the Sunday net, er roundtable, um, alley cat convention.

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #48 on: October 08, 2014, 04:06:17 PM »
I'm Sorry Guys,

I have a prior commitment this evening, So I'll need to pass on the Phone Net this week.

Anyone want to grab the ball and try Net Control feel Free.  There's a Net script in the download area at http://www.tspnet.tomstopics.com

And the chat is up and running : http://chat.tspnet.tomstopics.com

I'm thinking we should convert this phone net to digital, So I think next week I'd like to give that a shot.  Any comments on that are welcome.


Again, Sorry.

I'll be ready for next Week.




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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #49 on: October 08, 2014, 05:10:55 PM »
i will try and pickup the net this evening.  I think it would be fun to try the digital net.

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #50 on: October 08, 2014, 07:04:44 PM »
I am on 7.275 now, not hearing any checkins.

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #51 on: October 08, 2014, 11:22:52 PM »
I work up from my nap, read Toms post and assumed that the new was pretty much a no go and went back to bed.

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #52 on: October 14, 2014, 05:50:59 PM »
So... are we on for tomorrow evening?

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #53 on: October 15, 2014, 11:37:42 AM »
I will be around.  We are trying a PSK31 net correct?

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #54 on: October 15, 2014, 06:42:14 PM »
I will be around.  We are trying a PSK31 net correct?
Yeah, let's do PSK31.  7080 sounds relatively clear at the moment, so let's try for that.

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #55 on: October 15, 2014, 07:07:30 PM »
Ok, called for 5 min.  All quiet on the HF front.

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #56 on: October 15, 2014, 07:20:53 PM »
QSY to 14.080

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #57 on: October 15, 2014, 07:28:14 PM »
Well, it worked on 7.080, but I can't hear anything on 14.080.  Back to 7080?  Will be standing by there.

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #58 on: October 15, 2014, 07:57:24 PM »
I can never make this one because of church...

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #59 on: October 22, 2014, 05:50:45 AM »
Join the Survival Podcast Hams Digital Radio Network tonight.

Let’s see who we can find On-Air.

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