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Offline Black November

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Security Lighting for Tiny Off Grid Cabin/Shack?
« on: November 02, 2015, 12:43:17 PM »
How should I setup Security lighting for a tiny off grid cabin/shack?

I would like to install some perimeter flood lighting around the exterior of an offgrid cabin. I wouldn't leave the lights on all the time. I would just turn them on briefly (5-10 minutes at a time) while letting the dog outside to pee at night, and to identify any predators. We've had bears in the past and recently there have been some cougar/mountain lion sightings.

I have a Steven Harris inspired Truck Battery Bank, and a large pain-in-the-ass-pull-start generator. I am thinking of plugging the cabin into the truck's battery bank via long extension cord and using AC LED lights. I though about running DC and using headlights but I am worried about running DC over long distances. I may consider small Solar for the cabin, but the PNW is not know for our sun?

(Pic is for reference only. This is not my cabin)
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Re: Security Lighting for Tiny Off Grid Cabin/Shack?
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2015, 03:20:44 PM »
there are  fixed (mountable) dc solar flood lights with Motion detectors & manual ones as well. having LED lamps in them for situations like you are asking about, 12 volt Photo cell relays are cheap on the net compared to big box stores.(Same relay) ,you could pick up some cheap solar lights (W/mt) for use to see sidewalks or the path to your vehicle.
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Re: Security Lighting for Tiny Off Grid Cabin/Shack?
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2015, 03:33:37 PM »
I was looking into this earlier for my new barn. Should be fairly simple with a motion sensor on each side of the structure wired properly.
This thread has the solution that I'm looking into. https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/electrical-lighting/how-add-two-motion-sensors-existing-light-circuit-220955.html
If you wire it up like that, you could power it any number of ways and easily adapt it to something else later.

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Re: Security Lighting for Tiny Off Grid Cabin/Shack?
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2015, 04:29:35 PM »
My wife has to get up and feed the horse at 6am every morning and while most of the summer it's light out, most of the year it's dark at that time so she asked me to put some lights out for her because of concern about bears and cougars.  We don't have power at the barn and running power out there would have cost about $500 to do properly.  I already had a 12v deep cycle battery (group 24).  I installed that in the barn with a wireless remote which has worked great since the spring of 2013 with only one change of the remote batteries.  I installed two .  She only uses the system for 5-10 minutes a day, so the system maintains itself just fine with a $30 5w solar panel (don't have a link).

You could make a similar system motion activated with one of [url=http://www.amazon.com/Outdoor-Security-Detector-Inductor-Floodlight/dp/B00HLWXCHI/]these
hooked to one of these (motion detector is only rated to 10w (less than one amp), two lights is 4 amps, so you need to the relay to handle the higher amperage).  Heck, you could wire in both and have one switch in the house to turn on when you wanted, the other in the car so you could turn the lights when you arrived, and the motion detector to work whenever something went bump in the night.

You could also go with much bigger off road lights, but I found these have been plenty adequate and for the money, they're hard to beat.

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Re: Security Lighting for Tiny Off Grid Cabin/Shack?
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2015, 05:14:04 AM »
I guess a powerful flashlight has been suggested?

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Re: Security Lighting for Tiny Off Grid Cabin/Shack?
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2015, 05:56:50 AM »
http://smile.amazon.com/dp/B009E89QBS/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=38DTUC40GUOTA&coliid=I2U0V68PIB82K9

These put out as much light as a 250-300 watt halogen on 30 watts.  I bought a couple to be work lights so I could use my little Honda generator at night--it could run regular floodlights OR tools, now it can run both! 


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Re: Security Lighting for Tiny Off Grid Cabin/Shack?
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2015, 10:55:48 AM »
D'oh!  Or even simpler than the motion detector with a relay, a motion detector that can handle higher amperage:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EQ20C6K

And it's even cheaper than the other motion detector!

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Re: Security Lighting for Tiny Off Grid Cabin/Shack?
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2015, 11:07:13 AM »
There's also a whole host of battery operated options (you can look in the related items to start you on your search, but this light has 300 lumens, which is quite impressive for being wireless).

http://www.amazon.com/Beams-MB390-300-Lumen-Weatherproof-Spotlight/dp/B00BCCNZA2/

I bought two solar pathway lights that are always on dim, but when you approach they get very bright (I'd guess 100 lumens) for their size.  I liked them so much I bought two more.  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CYA1PGC  They were worth the $22 when I bought my second set, now they're only $14!

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Re: Security Lighting for Tiny Off Grid Cabin/Shack?
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2015, 02:18:02 PM »
I'd like to recommend a Streamlight waypoint. The new version with 550 lumens that runs on C-Batts and can run on 12vdc with the lighter plug as a backup light.
for a couple of reasons

it runs on 12vdc indefinitely so if you have a portable batter bank or jumpstarter with a lighter plug. you can save the batteries

has good throw 400+ yards plus

hand held and waterproof

you can run NIMH rechargeable c-cells no special battery pack

can use it in the car on the way in and out from the lighter plug

reasonable price 50-60 bucks


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Re: Security Lighting for Tiny Off Grid Cabin/Shack?
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2015, 03:26:46 PM »
We use this style of motion detecting, solar charged lights peppered around our property:





They run about $10 each and you just hang them in areas with exposure to sun.  Together they act as a sort of zone alarm shining up areas with movement.   I don't like lights which are so powerful that they destroy night vision so this approach of smaller lights work well for me.   If I want to investigate one coming on I light up the area with a laser genetics designator either handheld or mounted on one of my firearms like these videos show:

https://youtube.com/?#/watch?v=hdfdIgjj2Xk

https://youtube.com/?#/watch?v=0sGfb8zMBPk



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