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Offline bigbear

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What would you grab?
« on: October 24, 2017, 06:45:00 AM »
The reason we have 'go-bags'... 

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Fire-evacuees-had-minutes-or-seconds-to-save-12295025.php

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Under the glow of flames, the explanation for what people grabbed was often simple: It was something they defined themselves by, something they couldn’t replace or something that would bring them comfort among all the grief and loss that lay ahead. Some had planned for this moment with “go-bags” of clothes or fire-safe boxes with important documents. But others couldn’t reason why they plunged for the toothbrush over the wedding ring.

“We’re so used to being in control and so used to making decisions all the time,” said clinical psychologist Susan Silk, who focuses on disaster response. “But in situations like these when our lives are reduced to what we can grab in 30 minutes ... and we have to live with the consequences with our decisions under duress, then we question ourselves.”

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Re: What would you grab?
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2017, 08:12:18 AM »
     Back during the '50s, I think it was Popular Science magazine that had an article on evacuation in case of nuclear attack. I know I posted this before, but it's in a similar vein. A random family was given 30 minutes to gather what they could and pack it in their vehicle. the 30 minutes had something to do with the amount of a Soviet attack warning time. They didn't actually have to travel anywhere. The article then went on to look at what they took and how they went about packing. At the time there was a great deal of Civil Defense information available and the constant threat of nuclear war was on everyone's mind. However, the concept of "go-bags" and moments notice evacuation wasn't really dealt with. We thought we would have plenty of time to get it together and get going because of the early warning network. Of course ICBM technology changed much of that.
     I wish I had the year and month of that issue (at least I think it was Popular Science); have to look into that. As to our current planning, our vehicles have survival kits. If we travel by vehicle, the "go-bags" go with us. In an evacuation scenario, our pre-packed, boxed and bagged supplies would get tossed into whatever vehicles we would take. Given a little more time, we would hitch up our rendezvous trailer (a complete 1840's "canvas and cast iron" camp inside), fill in the spaces with more supplies, and then boogie. We keep our gas tanks full (never less than 1/4), and we would be armed (all our vehicles have self-defense equipment). We would grab the firesafe box with enough cash ( and personal papers) to buy or bribe our way to where we needed to go.
     Keep in mind that "bugging out" is a last ditch option for us. Only in the case of a wildfire (unlikely in our area), or some imminent life threatening disaster, would we leave our home (our refuge and safe place with all that we might need). Naturally, the cats would be wearing their little bulletproof vests and tiny gas masks; as I told my wife: if I had to choose between her and the cats, I'd sure miss her.

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Re: What would you grab?
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2017, 09:02:22 AM »
  I mostly cheat as I have a safe and secure BOL within 10 miles of my home and would take a shotgun and a revolver or a Sig 45 ACP and a 7 day bag of provisios and my documents bag though most all is duplicated at the BOL and many years of food,etc already positioned though you just don't know where you are going til you get there and so some support is always the best way to travel. ALERT to travel ...less that 10 minutes.

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Re: What would you grab?
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2017, 02:54:43 PM »
For fire ; depends how cooperative the animals are. Absolute first order of business is lives at stake. Any cats I see are immediatelly thrown into the bathroom or a carrier so I can grab them. Truck is backed up close to barn, goats are loaded. Cats put in carriers into back seat. Next is the photo albums, laptop and firearms/safe contents. 30 minutes is likely up by then. During a fire, it is easy to get clothes and food once you are out of the danger zone. If I still had time left after these essentials in truck (ie., I had help to load) I would hitch up the travel trailer, and I would put the grab and go packs/buckets in it. It is possible all that can be done in 30 minutes. It can be hard to find a place to stay after a fire, so a trailer or tent is nice if you have time.


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Re: What would you grab?
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2017, 03:01:15 PM »
  Well thought out plan MountainMomma, have you done this before ...or just planned as it appears very well thought out as I might still grab food ,even though plenty would be available for most any localized event.

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Re: What would you grab?
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2017, 04:33:58 PM »
I have evacuated twice for fire before, but never had as much as 30 minutes --- Last one, we were escorted over an already closed road/evacuation line and given something like 10-15 minutes to follow them back out. We retrieved animals, 3 out of 4 vehicles, laptops, pictures, papers, stuff to keep my then 5th grader secure and happy. We did not have a safe to empty at that time, but could have done it as it was not just me.

I would take my grab and go's if time. I have never had that time before, but if I did, I would. In one spot in the pantry, along the walkway, between the kitchen and garage, are 2 daypacks hanging on hooks, underneath are a couple 5 gallon buckets. Yes, if I had time, and enough empty hands, I would grab these. If only me and one pass thru, at least the 2 day packs, and they have straps and leave my hands free. The 2 day packs have backpacking stove, first aid kit, TP, backpacking meals, a bit of cat food, water purification, fire starting, etc..... So, at least 3 days food. The buckets add the next layer of prepared food, a week or more, another roll of TP. Layers of preparation. Once thru that door and into the garage, one can reach up on the way to the garage door to the outside and grab a tent and/or sleeping bags. ( There is also car camping stove, kitchen box there )

These grab and go's were not even in existence then. We learned from that evacuation that the hardest things to come by was a place to sleep, food was easy. When we were escorted over the fire line we were returning from camping, we actually had camping gear in the car, and tossed it out, into the garage to take other stuff. Now we know we would like camping gear, if we had enough time. A tent can be set up in someone's back yard (people in the surrounding areas offer such things when there is a disaster), and yield a private place to sleep. A camper can be in a parking lot at the fairgrounds, church or somewhere. Red cross evac center would be a miserable place to try and sleep. Red cross evac center is a reasonable place to go and get information, a toothbrush, maybe a shower, food at mealtimes, once they set that up. Maybe some donated clothes.

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Re: What would you grab?
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2017, 04:46:00 PM »
  Thanks MM,I value your experience as I have practiced but not been under time constraints of a true evacuation. Karma corn for you. :popcorn:

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Re: What would you grab?
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2017, 05:16:42 PM »
Go bag, critical records box, EDC is already on me, so I'm out the door in 45 seconds.  It'd be too bad about some small family heirlooms though.

But if you give me two hours, I'll run through the hurricane button-down list and be a lot better off.  Not like I haven't had a little practice at it.  :)   When you've got a little bit of time (but only a little bit), there's nothing like a list to keep you focused.

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Re: What would you grab?
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2017, 05:33:12 PM »
The kid, I guess.

All kidding aside, we have a really tight doc package to get insurance moving quick. People don't know but the guy who moves first gets replaced first so if it matters you need to move quick. Beyond that we can use the cabin as a BOL (have clothing and food) so it's pretty humdrum. If the house will be destroyed I will sprint to save some art (our photos are all stored on offsite thumb drives) and the external hard drive that mirrors our computer (better updated than the offsite one). Beyond that, jewelry, guns, and precious metals. After that I really don't need much. At that point I'm playing the insurance game.

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Re: What would you grab?
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2017, 10:33:16 AM »
The kid, I guess.


 ;D made me laugh

Besides kid and dog, I'd just be grabbing guns and silver. But everybody's replies remind me that I need to add docs to my BoB.