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Offline SelivanKA

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Is this the right food?
« on: December 22, 2017, 10:13:59 AM »
I decided to lay out a set of products that are accepted in "one country" ...  :)
Look and say:
Is it the right food or not?

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1. Breakfast 8: 00-10: 00
- porridge, cooked on milk (millet, rice, buckwheat and so on ...)
- a piece of cheese + boiled egg.
- rye bread and wheat
- coffee with milk.
(never have "fried bacon" and never anything "fried")
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2. Dinner 12:00 - 14:00
- "first course" - soup (Necessarily, otherwise your stomach gets messed up!)
- "second course" - meat, chicken, fish. (you can eat - "fried", but it's bad!)
- "garnish" - pasta, porridge, boiled potatoes.
- "salad" - meat or vegetable ...
- rye bread and wheat
- Compote or juice, as well as other natural drinks
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After Dinner - compulsory rest ...
You should rest for 30 minutes (and in the 19th century - slept for 2 hours!)
 :) :) :)
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3. Snack 16:00 - 17:00
You should eat fruits, vegetables, sweets, confectionery, ice cream ... and so on ...
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4. Supper 19:00 - 20:00
- "main course" - fish or seafood
- "garnish" - mashed potatoes
- "spices and salads" - a very large selection of natural products
- rye bread and wheat
- Sweet tea
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5. Night tea 21:00 - 22:00
- tea
- jam, honey, some cookies

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I'm interested ...
You can name "this country"

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Re: Is this the right food?
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2017, 11:04:34 AM »
Looks European but I saw a little German Irish and Italian didn’t I?  I’d eat like that for a day or three, but then I’m Irish-German and I love Italy.

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Re: Is this the right food?
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2017, 11:23:50 AM »
It's nice to hear your answer.
I love German and Italian cuisine, as I was in Europe ...
To Regret, you are mistaken ...
When I give the "right answer to my question" you will be surprised ...

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Re: Is this the right food?
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2017, 11:44:40 AM »
I do not want to "strain" the respected users of this forum ...
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The food system I wrote was adopted for Soviet People in 1952.
Personally, Comrade Stalin personally took it.
In the food should be the required amount of calories, vitamins, fiber ..
Stalin was a very educated man and knew how to hire real "scientific people" ...

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I hope that users of the forum will not be afraid of old times and will be able to discuss it ...
Personally, I consider this food system - the best in the world ...

And I do not speak about other ideas of Stalin.
 8)

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Re: Is this the right food?
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2017, 01:37:00 PM »
Yep I’m surprised.  Well played!

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Re: Is this the right food?
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2017, 02:00:14 PM »
If you would speak Russian, then I would give you a link to this-Stalin cuisine ..
This link is on the Internet.
Nevertheless, look ...

http://russianargentina.com.ar/quant/kovizp_1952.pdf

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Re: Is this the right food?
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2017, 04:07:11 PM »
My Russian isn’t as good as it used to be... and I never spoke Russian to begin with...  :)
 
That said, what does a traditional Russian Orthodox Christmas meal look like in a middle class type family?

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Re: Is this the right food?
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2017, 07:59:16 PM »
  Looks like CAJUN-RUSSIAN...from the South Western region.

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Re: Is this the right food?
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2017, 03:52:33 AM »
No..
 ;)
There are several "Russian cuisines"

1. Real Russian Cuisine of the 19th Century ...

Basic principles:
- a lot of natural products: berries, mushrooms, wild food ...
For example: Sturgeon and black caviar are "simple Russian food", but here red caviar is garbage ..
- Russians eat very little meat, and beef is "heavy meat." Russians ate only pork, lamb, and also "poultry" - chickens, ducks, geese.
- There are no "standards" for cooking.
- Historically, the Russians are preparing food "languor and baking," but Europeans and Americans are "frying" ..
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2. Soviet cuisine (I gave you an example earlier)

Basic principles:
- All products - Natural!
- very few products, since the USSR (1922-1991) was constantly at war ... Therefore, Stalin ordered the creation of the "Government standard"
All people in the USSR should receive the necessary amount of calories and vitamins, regardless of their salary ...
- Soviet people begin to eat "heavy meat" - beef
- There is a single "standard" GOST for cooking.
- Soviet people are starting to "fry" .. food ...
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3. Modern Russian cuisine

Basic principles:
- it's very difficult to find Natural Products ...
- very many products ..
- Modern Russian people eat "devil-those-what", as a rule "fast food"
- There are no "standards".

- And ... there is such a concept of "Russian cuisine"
This is a deception for stupid foreigners!
I'll talk about this later ... Very interesting ...

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Re: Is this the right food?
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2017, 05:01:48 AM »
Where does alcohol consumption fit into that menu?  I am not trying to be offensive, but you mentioned digestion and such, alcohol contains a lot of calories and Russia is fairly well known for it.

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Re: Is this the right food?
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2017, 05:40:34 AM »
If serious:
You read the statistics and see the real alcohol consumption in the World.
For example, in the USSR until 1991, consumption was minimal in the world!

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If you joke:
Do you want to prick me?
It's useless
Consumption of algogol in Russia is a myth that appeared in the 16th century ..
How did it come about?
The Pope wanted to convert the Orthodox into the Catholic faith. He sent his "viceroy" to the Russian Tsar Ivan-4 (Ivan the Terrible)
The tsar listened attentively to the "governor", then ordered to be beaten with sticks and thrown out of Russia ...
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"Viceroy" was very offended and wrote a book about Russia, including about "vodka", "Bears" ...
This book went to Europe. Especially pacific among beggars who did not observe the civilized laws of Europe, they sailed across the ocean and opened the island of America. and got drunk with happiness ...  :) :) :)

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Re: Is this the right food?
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2017, 07:26:08 AM »
No I am being completely serious.

Alcohol consumption was a noticable part of the caloric intake of many people's daily lives (not simply Russia), even more so in the 30s and 40s (comrade stalin's time) than today.

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Re: Is this the right food?
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2017, 09:20:29 AM »
As I recall alcohol consumption in the Soviet armed forces was quite a problem.
Viktor Belenko briefed us that it was so bad, Soviet air force ground crews were drinking the alcohol from the MIG-25 cooling systems which significantly degraded readiness.

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Re: Is this the right food?
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2017, 09:27:48 AM »
  I would guess the man is a newer breed of Russian as he appears to have genuine interest in sharing things of daily life and not much propaganda,I enjoy looking at the life of the common man from other countries and one of my frequent visitors on Ham radio is an 80 something year old man from Japan and we have conversation about foods,gardens,and family life often...though we both avoid politics and talk as individuals.

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Re: Is this the right food?
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2017, 10:29:06 AM »
when my husband was there in the late 90s, he said he had not met a man who did not drink (except those that joined the Mormon church, as it is against our religion)

SelivanKA - welcome to the forum.  Know that disagreement is not to be offensive, but to share what has been our experience, so that we can all learn from each other.

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Re: Is this the right food?
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2017, 11:32:12 AM »
I decided to lay out a set of products that are accepted in "one country" ...  :)
Look and say:
Is it the right food or not?

================================================== ==
1. Breakfast 8: 00-10: 00
- porridge, cooked on milk (millet, rice, buckwheat and so on ...)
- a piece of cheese + boiled egg.
- rye bread and wheat
- coffee with milk.
(never have "fried bacon" and never anything "fried")
-------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------
2. Dinner 12:00 - 14:00
- "first course" - soup (Necessarily, otherwise your stomach gets messed up!)
- "second course" - meat, chicken, fish. (you can eat - "fried", but it's bad!)
- "garnish" - pasta, porridge, boiled potatoes.
- "salad" - meat or vegetable ...
- rye bread and wheat
- Compote or juice, as well as other natural drinks
-------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------
After Dinner - compulsory rest ...
You should rest for 30 minutes (and in the 19th century - slept for 2 hours!)
 :) :) :)
-------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------
3. Snack 16:00 - 17:00
You should eat fruits, vegetables, sweets, confectionery, ice cream ... and so on ...
-------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------
4. Supper 19:00 - 20:00
- "main course" - fish or seafood
- "garnish" - mashed potatoes
- "spices and salads" - a very large selection of natural products
- rye bread and wheat
- Sweet tea
-------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------
5. Night tea 21:00 - 22:00
- tea
- jam, honey, some cookies

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I'm interested ...
You can name "this country"

This would be very similar to what was taught here at the same time period. America also hired food scientists and did education, especially after the depression and WW2. When I was in school, we still had dietary/cooking education in the middle and high schools, and the lunches provided by the schools for children were just what you listed for dinner, with the exception of no light soup or other first course. I believe England also was recommending similar after the war, with government subsidies and education.

As for supper, fish is not as universal, this depends if you live in a region with alot of fish. Afternoon snack featured fruit also.

As for breakfast, porridge is also very traditional here, although less popular now.

Your thought of fried breakfast being American comes from pioneer and farm times. Most of American history, prior to teh idustrial revolution, has been a time of pioneering, movement to new places, not always having an oven, and farms, large farms.


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Re: Is this the right food?
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2018, 03:12:46 PM »
I have a recipe for goat.....it is better than alligator,possum,or armadillo.