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awayfrmitall

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Some Useful Links
« on: November 10, 2008, 09:04:54 AM »
Hi all,

Thought I would share some useful links to information that I have accumulated through my journey with prepping. I hope it may help some new people find a direction to start.

One of the first places I started was by reading this prudent food storage manual put together by Alan Hagen. It has so much information and if you use the link to download as a pdf you can store it on your computer then print it out for reference.

http://athagan.members.atlantic.net/Index.html

Another thing that had me stumped when starting was exactly how much stuff would I really need for my family of four? I got some basic guidelines via the LDS website's food storage calculator but found a much more indepth one here:

http://www.thefoodguys.com/foodcalc.html

and another one... http://lds.about.com/library/bl/faq/blcalculator.htm

Then there was the whole issue of how to keep track of the stuff I was stocking up on. I didn't want to be caught short on something nor did I want to have an over-abundance of one item that we really wouldn't use much.

I found this excel spreadsheet to keep track of inventory. It can be manipulated on the amounts per serving if you know how to tweak excel. If not then the formula's that are there would probably work for most families.... I also added a few more pages and listed items like batteries, toliet paper, soap, etc just so I had one file that told me what I have in the house.

Inventory spreadsheet- http://simplylivingsmart.com/images/Resources/Food-Storage-Master-Plan.xls
(This spreadsheet will work with any Microsoft Excel compatible spreadsheet program. If you do not currently have a compatible spreadsheet program, you can download a fully-compatible, FREE and robust spreadsheet program from http://www.openoffice.org/ OpenOffice.org is an open source organization devoted creating a fully compatible, free office suite of applications. OpenOffice.org  is a reputable resource.)

Also, browsing the Simply Living Smart website has a bunch of information... www.simplylivingsmart.com

For those of you in the City (or even in the Country) and want to have some fresh eggs or home raised chicken then www.backyardchickens.com has great info on raising chicks, chickens etc. Mostly geared to small flocks but lots of info for anyone.

Now for the saying "store what you eat & eat what you store"... I found this great website that has every recipe from around the world you could ever want. You can search by using a keyword (for example: lentils) and have every imaginable recipe to make that ingredient with.

www.fooddownunder.com another site is www.recipezaar.com what I like about that one is the ability to sort by rating and read what others said about it before you make it. (Made some ethiopian lentiles the other day from this site and they were great... much better than plain old lentils with ham or some other standard making of them).

Now how long is the basic storage life of some things I am buying (This is only a guide. With proper storage methods I am sure that many items would actually be fine for much longer).

http://www.solareagle.com/PREP/SHLFLIFE.HTM

I hope this helps someone get started.

Edited to add: If you have any links for information please add yours to this thread also.
 
« Last Edit: November 10, 2008, 09:31:17 AM by awayfrmitall »

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Re: Some Useful Links
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2008, 08:52:53 AM »
I found some more links some might feel useful...

This first one has plans for making all sorts of things like bows, boats, canoes, games, a mulch maker etc...
http://www.countryplans.com/vintage_farm/index.html

This next site has all sorts of links to a bunch of useful info:
http://standeyo.com/News_Files/Hollys.html

Here's a link to some bulk food & spices (prices look pretty reasonable):
http://www.bulkfoods.com/default.htm

I know this was a topic of one of the podcast episodes... This site has good info about the "three sisters" garden:
http://faq.gardenweb.com/faq/lists/teach/2003045238014436.html

Here's a link with every kind of plan imaginable... from Poultry Coops to Barns & Sheds to Veggie Cellars, Smokehouses, an Ice house & much more:
http://www.ag.ndsu.nodak.edu/abeng/plans/index.htm

And for those of you that would like to get a homestead cow here's a site with good family cow info (yes she is selling a book BUT her discussion forums are awesome if you are looking into this):
http://www.real-food.com/


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Re: Some Useful Links
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2008, 09:47:16 PM »
Thanks for the helpful links. It will take me a bit to look them over. One thing that stood out was the Excel doc. 35.7  gallons of water for 3 people for a month, 3-6 months and a year? Why are they all 35.7 I wonder. By the figure of 1 gallon per person per day that would only last my family 1 week and a day. Anybody know the answer to this?

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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2008, 10:01:46 PM »
Thanks for the helpful links. It will take me a bit to look them over. One thing that stood out was the Excel doc. 35.7  gallons of water for 3 people for a month, 3-6 months and a year? Why are they all 35.7 I wonder. By the figure of 1 gallon per person per day that would only last my family 1 week and a day. Anybody know the answer to this?

Up near the top of the summary page did you put the number of your family members in the proper boxes for their ages ect?

If you do it should formulate what you need based on the number of people in your family.

I'll go look in the morning at a raw copy of the download and see what formula the author has in there and comment back.

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Re: Some Useful Links
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2008, 10:08:14 PM »
Yes, I put one male adult, one female adult, and one female child.

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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2008, 06:02:21 AM »
Yes, I put one male adult, one female adult, and one female child.

Ok there's an error in the formula. Here are the easy fixes to match what you want.

1. Start in box B16. If you want 1 gallon per Adult per day you would put 356 here for the Annual Amount for an adult.
2. Go to Box F16 and copy this formula in the box  =IF($C16>0,IF($D16>0,$D16/12,$C16/12),0) and hit the tab button. The amount based on your family should now read 75.65
3. Box G16 Copy this in =IF($C16>0,IF($D16>0,$D16/4,$C16/4),0) and hit tab. The new amount for your family should be 226.95.
4 Box H16 =IF($C16>0,IF($D16>0,$D16/2,$C16/2),0)
5. Box I16 =IF($C16>0,IF($D16>0,$D16,$C16),0)   

on all the formulas above copy from the = sign to the ) on the end...

For all the formulas you can tweak the "One Adult Amount Suggested" as an annual total as it fits your family. If you eat more Legumes than Meat etc. 

If you PM me your email I can also send a copy of the sheet to you with the formula fixed for you.

Regards,
Jamie

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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2008, 04:29:43 PM »
No, I fixed them as you suggested. Thanks for doing the work on that one. Now it seems to more like something closer to what we would need. +1 for the effort! Thanks!

In addition there seems to be other errors on this spreadsheet. The meats and such on the summary are in servings, but the page for those items are in pounds.

It never defines pleasure foods nor does it have an information area for it in the summary so that it can let you keep track of it.

I don't mean to be a dick, but it seems like they didn't work through the spreadsheet as well as they could have. I love the spreadsheet, don't get me wrong, but I am having to make changes to it because of the errors.
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« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2008, 08:55:09 PM »
I wondered about that also but was unable to find something I didn't have to pay for to start with just to get myself somewhat organized.

I've heard good reviews on www.foodstorageplanner.com & their program and have played around with the demo a bit.... I am thinking of buying the license but I'm looking around a bit more just incase there's something better out there.

I figure the $$ spent on the program would probalby pay itself back if I don't accidentally forget about some food I have and accidentally let it go bad or something.

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Re: Some Useful Links
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2008, 10:27:06 PM »
Thanks for the helpful links. It will take me a bit to look them over. One thing that stood out was the Excel doc. 35.7  gallons of water for 3 people for a month, 3-6 months and a year? Why are they all 35.7 I wonder. By the figure of 1 gallon per person per day that would only last my family 1 week and a day. Anybody know the answer to this?
1 gallon/ person per day is the MINIMUM. Add another gallon per person for bathing and sanitation. And add another for hot weather. And if you fell so inclined, add one jus to have a bit extra.
So now you should get an idea where this amount came from. ;D

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« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2008, 10:52:03 PM »
Yeah, I knew about the gallon a day. Problem where I live is areas to store food. I live in a trailer with lots of people around. Storing water is not exactly an easy thing to do inside my house. I have 31 gallons already, but if I wanted to do mass storage under my skirting of the trailer then people are going to notice.  :-[ This has been problematic for me, but hopefully something I can find a solution to.

Back on track though, I am grateful for the free info, and I know the spreadsheet isn't perfect, but it is fixable. I have made some mods to it so that it fits more of the things I have and purchase. Not a bad little spreadsheet.

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« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2008, 11:24:20 PM »
Thanks for a couple of extra links for my library files.  I have a lot of my own and thought that I would pass some of them on to folks to maybe help others with their survival and prep files.

A few WATER sites:
http://www.tank-depot.com/
http://www.arcsa.org/
http://www.alpharubicon.com/kids/homemadeberkeydaire.htm

A few FOOD sites:
http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles/beattie47.html
http://www.uga.edu/nchfp/publications/publications_usda.html
http://www.oneplusyou.com/q/v/trapped

A few LIGHTING sites :
http://www.candles.net/
http://www.lanternnet.com/
http://www.judyofthewoods.net/lamp.html

Some on FARMING & HOMESTEADING
http://www.homestead.org/
http://www.eawag.ch/organisation/abteilungen/sandec/publikationen/publications_sesp/downloads_sesp/compendium_high.pdf
http://www.earthmountainview.com/An_Old_Fashioned_Farm.htm
http://www.squarefootgardening.com/
http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library/device/devicesToC.html#contents

I have  a lot more, but you can find most anything and everything on the WEB. Keywords are your friend or your enemy. Only you can decide what you want or need, but it never hurts to have some good folks point you in the right direction.
These forums are a good place to start.

ENJOY !!!  ;D

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Re: Some Useful Links
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2008, 09:51:48 AM »
Here is a fun site, it has old civil defense films and audio stashed there. My personal favorite is an old radio broadcast of Orson Wells theater doing a show on civil defense.   Here is the link    http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=civil%20defense

Also some good films (and some not so good films) are found on Youtube.com. Personally I found the "Protect and Survive" series out of the UK to be fun and kinda informative although a bit dated. The info is good though especially for the unwashed masses, mainly about last minute prep so old hat for the prepared. Old civil defense films get a bad rap by many on Youtube (read the comments) but for the times and the budget they had I think they did a good job at getting out information. There are many Vblogs about survival related issues there as well, some good, some not so good. I found the reloading films to be interesting especially on using my shotshell reloader. There are films about medical procedures as well although may not be good for the squeamish. Here is an exterior link to a site that uploads to Youtube -  http://normedsps.lakeheadu.ca/pocketsnips/  . Checkout the videos of the guy using a REAL flamethrower (not the kids with water guns loaded with gasoline) it always makes me a bit jealous that I haven't picked one up.